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Republicans Doubtful About 2012: What to do? What to do?
Conservative for Change ^ | May 9, 2011 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 05/09/2011 10:17:05 AM PDT by RogerFGay

Byron York wrote a good article for the Washington Examiner titled 2012 and the Republican rescue fantasy. The sense among South Carolina's Republicans is that the current field of presidential candidates is poor. I could say, Well, DU-UH! but feel no urge to treat the writer disrespectfully. Someone did have to report it after all, and it is at least half my intention here to repeat it.

The “Republican rescue fantasy” York refers to is that of “a superhero candidate will swoop down out of the sky and rescue them from their current lackluster presidential field.” After reviewing the usual suspects and some dropped names of “unattainable” candidates, he concludes that “One thing is certain: No previously-unknown savior is going to descend from the sky to save Republicans. If they are to defeat Barack Obama, they'll have to do it with someone from their extended field today.”

Well, OK. Given that ending, York's piece can be classified as commentary and I'm free to rag a bit.

If the analysis is to be a serious one, it must first be recognized that the Republican difficulty in defeating the most overtly corrupt president in the nation's history is totally pathetic. The Republican mid-term success was due to a simple promise to fight back. The new House of Representatives opened with a dramatic historical event; the first time the House read through the U.S. Constitution. They won because they told us they'd do everything they could to see that government began playing by the rules.

That in fact was the Republican fantasy; one hypocritically aimed at the voting public. Once seated, it soon became clear that they preferred to take the quickest route back to “business as usual.”

I do not think that a superhero candidate is needed. He or she need only be better than the opponent. I do not agree with York that Republicans need to pick someone from the current extended field. That seems the worst possible course. The Republican problem is one of credibility, making any established Party operative a liability. It's difficult to believe, for example, that anyone thinks Mitt Romney will ever win the presidency, even if he runs against the Devil who declares actually being the Devil and runs on a platform assuring that everyone who votes for him will go to Hell.

Republicans have said they'd be better many times, but then when it's time to deliver – they aren't. Instead they merely present a different set of excuses, lies, and arguments for compromise that lead to the same sort of corrupt policies, growth of government, and centralized control. The credibility problem has become critical, producing the pathetic difficulty they now face. In the hearts of voters: Fool me once, shame on me! Fool me a few hundred times … well … dude, you've got a serious problem.

The place to focus for 2012 is back on the promise of 2010 and what they actually need to do (talk is cheap) to improve the Party's credibility enough to raise them from their pathetic status.



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To: Grunthor
One thing that team would do....it would END RINO’s.

Crazy like a fox, I am!

Couldn't you just imagine these two campaigning thru Harlem, the lower east side, "boy's town" in Chicago, East LA?? What a hoot!

21 posted on 05/09/2011 10:39:24 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason
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To: Jim Robinson

They kicked all of those out. Now what?


22 posted on 05/09/2011 10:39:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Present me with a lesser of two evils choice and I'll pick 'none of the above' every time.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Who is the current head of her exploratory committee?


23 posted on 05/09/2011 10:40:22 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.hermancain.com/index.asp)
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To: Gil4
Many will stay home

With the team I proposed, I'm pretty sure that would be the case....at least for the presidential ticket.

However, I proposed the team in jest.

Me thinks many on FR need to see some humor in things...or go stark raving mad and begin to emulate the union thugs and college student in Madison, WI

24 posted on 05/09/2011 10:42:07 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason
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To: RogerFGay

The good news is that with a little work republicans can still show they are a better alternative than Obama and the democrats going into the 2012 election.

The bad news is that they will expend most of their time and energy trying to weasle out of their 2010 promises and once again do their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of success.


25 posted on 05/09/2011 10:42:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after TEOTWAWKI)
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To: RogerFGay
What is so hard about beating Obama ?

"It's the economy, stupid!"

They created 244,00 jobs last month, 64,000 at McDonald's. That is 25% of the jobs created. Oh, yeah ... a Million people applied for those jobs. I have talked to a lot of people who voted for him last time that won't this time. What are the Republican's afraid of. Tell them to put me up. The ONLY problem with the Republican Party is that they are afraid of losing the "Game of Rhetoric". Just make sure you run a real republican.

Obama will refuse to even debate Newt unless questions are submitted beforehand.

Newt/Palin [won't happen] would destroy Obama, Newt/Kasich would destroy Obama. Palin/Kasich would kill.

I know people are not big on Palin. The one advantage she has is that she has already done, what other have promised

26 posted on 05/09/2011 10:46:48 AM PDT by Why So Serious
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To: RogerFGay

I remember the 1980 election when that scum bag, peanut brained, jerk from GA was in office, we had no hope then, makes me want to puke.


27 posted on 05/09/2011 10:50:54 AM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: RogerFGay

sometimes knowing what not to do is better than knowing what to do...here is what not to do...mcpain, romney, huckabee, gingrich, anybody named bush.....this is what not to do...


28 posted on 05/09/2011 10:51:45 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Why So Serious

I’m not sure that economy is everything it used to be. Oh, sure ... not saying it’s unimportant. Surely it is. But people are seriously looking deeper. I don’t think even the economy is the silver bullet that can be used to avoid the corruption problem. It’s that easy on the Democrat side ... Bammers simply promises to hire a few million more public employees at 2-3 times or more what they’re worth - buying the votes again with public money. On the other side - where people are more intelligent and enlightened, the hopes, aspirations, dreams .... kind of life, the universe, and everything die in the process. You know that things have gone well into the extreme zone with in politics, money isn’t everything.


29 posted on 05/09/2011 10:53:26 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Grunthor

She seems to be staying quiet...much like any hunter....you quietly approach your target and when the time is right...you act. Most of her movement right now is at grassroots level...and it is growing by the day. If you watch her early interviews when she was with McCain and her more current ones, you will notice the change in her presentation. She is coming along...and coming along very well.


30 posted on 05/09/2011 10:55:17 AM PDT by imfrmdixie (A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Eisenhower)
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To: Grunthor

Heh heh heh ... Yeah, you and the FEC would like to know, but that ain’t gonna happen till she’s ready. Meanwhile, preparation for full engagement is underway, everything that can be done that falls below the legal threshold of “testing the waters,” etc. I know, because I’m part of it. To be clear, no official campaign for Palin exists, because it is not wise that it should exist at this time. Patience, FRiend. There’s a deep rumble coming from within the hangar, and when the time is right, the doors will open. You can take it to the bank. BTW, Peter Schweizer of the Hoover Institute is doing just that ... Just sayin ...


31 posted on 05/09/2011 10:55:35 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Picture of the gun, boat, and motor??


32 posted on 05/09/2011 10:56:46 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can't think of anything to say...)
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To: Mr. K
Nobody ever taught me a nice way to say phuck you ...

McCain? He is the reason we lost last time. For all his military experience the guy has virtually NO ATTACK! He would be the 2012 version of Bob Dole. McCain and Romney are both DOA. You need people who, when they speak, they INSPIRE people. Without Palin in 2008 McCain would have been trounced. Palin was ALL the inspiration that year. Both candidates will have to speak with passion. That takes McCain and Romney out.

33 posted on 05/09/2011 10:57:10 AM PDT by Why So Serious
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To: Jim Robinson

34 posted on 05/09/2011 10:57:10 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Gil4

The GOP will terrify the voters with Ryans stupid plan.


35 posted on 05/09/2011 10:58:08 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: RogerFGay

Cain/West or Cain/Bolton. Cain’s powerful personality at the top, and rounding out his relative lack of foreign policy knowledge with a West, Bolton, etc as VP.


36 posted on 05/09/2011 10:58:20 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can't think of anything to say...)
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37 posted on 05/09/2011 10:59:16 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: RogerFGay
Bolton/Bachman . . . I would love to see two adults kick some ass in these so-called slanted debates . . .

And I would love to see the Republicans tell the League of Woman Ogres to go to hell with any debate sponsored by them.

If I'm not mistaken, the last time the League of Women Ogres sponsored the POTUS debate, they had some minority as the moderator who had a Messiah worship book waiting to be published about Obambi.

Actually, I think the debates are a total waste of time. All the media does is wait for the slightest mistake that they can capture and throttle the Republicans with for the next months. I really can't imagine that Hitlery would have any her 1000 stolen FBI files on either of them.

38 posted on 05/09/2011 11:02:12 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: AFreeBird

I love my chances with Palin and John Kasich.
If that were the ticket we would have only one chance of losing. I trully feel that if they won, we as Americans would win in a BIG way!


39 posted on 05/09/2011 11:02:44 AM PDT by Why So Serious
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To: Why So Serious

IMHO I’d like to see Kasich fix Ohio first. Same for Chris Christie.

If only they had a full term under their belts, I think a team of Christie/Kasich could do a lot of good, however.


40 posted on 05/09/2011 11:05:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can't think of anything to say...)
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