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To: Music Producer
This fight must be won for the sake of the law of our land. It’s not good enough just to beat him at the polls; it needs to be historically understood that he was an ineligible fraud.

Not only is it MORE important to beat him at the polls, it's the ONLY thing that matters.

This is what Birthers were never able to grasp. America will survive if the country is ruled by man who may or may not meet the elegibility requirements. It won't survive if we're driven into insolvency and collapse. The Constitution is a wonderful document, but you somehow are able to overlook how it is violated in massive and life-altering ways, and obsess over a very minor and unclear item.

Politically correct restrictions on free speech. Infringing what 'shall not be infringed.' Commerce clause abuses. Eminent domain abuses. But THIS is what you settle on as the hill to die on? It's tactically and strategically pointless, in the grand scheme of our problems. Gas is $5 and rising. Unemployment is 9% and rising. Debt is in the trillions and skyrocketing. 1 out of 9 Americans on food stamps.

If we can't beat Obama on that, do you think anyone's going to care about Vattel? The Supreme Court and Congress doesn't care now, they won't tomorrow. There's no path to victory on it. It's a *dead end*.

Having it 'historically understood' that Obama was ineligible is nothing more than hoping someone chisels a footnote into our gravestone. It's not what put us in the grave. Losing in the polls to Obama is what matters. The rest is suicidal obsession with a dead end issue.

16 posted on 05/07/2011 1:03:34 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Steel Wolf

It is not just winning the next election that counts. You cannot allow someone who is most likely an illegal alien, who is a known Marxist, a known racist, and an anti-American Muslim walk out at the end of his term with all of our national secrets. He must be arrested and put away in a place where all of what he has learned illegally dies with him in his little hole. Please do not forget that he belonged to a cult for 20 years that espoused all of these traits. It would also be a disaster to establish that the constitution has been declared meaningless.


18 posted on 05/07/2011 8:39:04 PM PDT by MIDDLE CLASS GUY
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To: Steel Wolf
but you somehow are able to overlook how it is violated in massive and life-altering ways,
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This statement of your is absolute nonsense!

How many time must it be posted that the Article 2 defenders can walk and chew gum at the **same** time! The wins in 2010 would have been completely impossible without the **hard** word and **dedication** of those defending Article 2 of the Constitution.

What is your goal and purpose? Hm? Demoralize the base and then ultimate lose those elections that your seem ( maybe) to care about? Why are you sowing division and discord? Pehaps you real goal is to see that Obama is reelected.

20 posted on 05/07/2011 9:07:32 PM PDT by wintertime
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