I know this is slightly off topic. I can’t find a clear copy of the Nordyke twins BC. What I do see is that Obama’s mother signed the document on 8-7-61 and the next signature was 8-8-61. It was stamped on 8-8-61. The number of the Certificate is higher than that of both twins. The mother would not have signed a blank document. It would already have a number.
The twins mother signed her two docs on 8-7-61 but they were not processed until 8-11-61. This does not make any sense.
How many registars are there. My town is larger than Honolulu in 1961. There is one person as Registar. Anyone in the office could have filled out the documents but the Registar must actually sign and apply the seal. This is still done in 2011 when I obtained a copy for my sons DL application. I had to return to pick up the BC because only the Registrar can sign and seal same. I have seen three different signatures on posted BC’s. How can the revolving Registrar system work? How many are authorized to seal and sign off? That is the bigger question.
Even if they are certified copies the seal should be there in all circumstances. Anyone have a clear link to Nordyke twins BC?
Where's it say that?
The twins mother signed her two docs on 8-7-61 but they were not processed until 8-11-61. This does not make any sense.
How do you know that the numbering was not the final step in the process, performed on a week's worth of certificates by a single filing clerk using a single Bates number stamper? How do you know said clerk made sure the certificates were in chronological order before stamping them? And, if the clerk did sort them, how do you know she/he didn't screw up once in a while?
There is one person as Registar. Anyone in the office could have filled out the documents but the Registar must actually sign and apply the seal. This is still done in 2011 when I obtained a copy for my sons DL application. I had to return to pick up the BC because only the Registrar can sign and seal same. I have seen three different signatures on posted BC’s. How can the revolving Registrar system work? How many are authorized to seal and sign off? That is the bigger question.
The process of obtaining a certified copy or abstract of an original birth certificate is distinct from the process of filing the original birth certificate.
Even if they are certified copies the seal should be there in all circumstances.
The seal's only purpose to inhibit making forged copies of certified birth certificates. It's obsolete. They should just put the certificate image on their HTTPS website behind a secret URL given to the subject or his relative or authorized representative. Then the subject could give that URL to any agency requiring a birth certificate, and they could verify it by viewing an image known for sure to originate at the Hawaii Department of Health. In Obama's case, he could just post the link on whitehouse.gov.
Anyone have a clear link to Nordyke twins BC?
You can see the Nordyke BCs here. And, yes, there does appear to be seal, applied to each of the photostats when they were made, 45 years ago yesterday.
