Posted on 05/04/2011 3:23:20 PM PDT by butterdezillion
But the longer Kapiolani Hospital continues to remain conspicuous silent, the more I am going to believe that Obama was not born at Kapiolani as stated on his long form birth certificate.
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I'm sorry, but your point is? Thanks.
If you put the Nordyke twins’ BC nexrt to the thing ‘released’ 4/27/2011 you will note that the handwritten date next to the signature line is the same ...
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Dr. Sinclair on Obama's long form certificate: I wish we could see other examples of how Dr. Sinclair signed his name so that we could see how he signed the date.
When a legislator said 'You lie' during a SOTU speech and was soundly chastised by even the feckless pubbies, well, that pretty well told We The People where the elected stooges spread their cheeks. The federal oligarchy now rules, not We The People.
The subPreme court is not going to take any case that challeneges the affirmative action potus, so the issue is a non-starter until fifty years from now when FOIA requests can be granted ... if there is then an America in which to make the requests.
If I was going to go about forging a document of this nature, I would not do it electronically. I would focus my efforts on creating a physical piece of paper that has all the required information and date/sequential elements. With that printed document, only then would I scan the cert for wider distribution. Here's the high level steps I would do (at least the ones I can think of):
1) I would create (electronically) the green/white background pattern (this would be done electronically, but only with the aim of printing out finished blanks. With this base pattern, I can produce as many ready-to-go blank forms so that I can go about filling it in.
2) I would create or have made era-equivalent stamps. This would involve some engineering/prototyping and craftsmanship to the same specs as the ones used in the day. While this stamp would necessarily only need the numbers I planned to punch on my faked cert, it might contain all the numbers.
3) I would then go about aging the numbers I wanted to use. While a stamp might have a useful life span of 5-10 years, it might stamp a few dozen thousand times per number/character over it's expected life. My guess is that you could replicate this aging in only a few days/weeks with a few dedicated hours each day of constant “whacking” on paper. After all this aging, I bet you'd end up with a stamp that doesn't put all the ink on the perfect character shape that it did when it was new.
4) I'd learn to reasonably replicate the known signatures for the document. I am not sure how long this would take, but I am highly confident with lots of repetition, a signature can be “replicated” (not duplicated).
5) I'd obtain an era-equivalent typewriter so that I can take my perfect, printed blank forms (with matching lines laid out in exactly the same way a Hawaii-sourced form would appear) and physically type the intended text.
6) Lastly, I would engineer my own “official” Registrars stamp. Folks, these are made all the time by SOMEBODY. They may be sold in a controlled process (Notary Publics obtain and use their own stamps to this day, so it's possible to reverse engineer a Hawaii one that is perfect in EVERY way).
So now I have a blank form that I have typed where necessary, then added my aged stamps to the needed spots. Then, I would add signatures where they belong. If I didn't like my signatures, I'd simply repeat the process on typed up forms until I am happy with the signatures.
Then, with the VERY legal appearing document, I would then SCAN that document and distribute that image file so all the recipients wouldn't know that the paper wasn't the perfect weight.
And, since I am working in the President's office, on a team dedicated to this manufacturing process, there's actually going to be more than just me doing this, so I will end up with a lot of attempts to get a perfect document.
I think all the people looking at the LFBC and reviewing the digital artifacts are only looking at the product of a OCR-capable scanner that naturally layers the image into its recognizable components. So when they see idenitcal "1"s (down to the pixel) on the form, they are seeing the OCR's process of recognizing the character and repriducing it in the text layer. Its possible some characters of the same letter or number would appear identical due to file compression, which creates an identical image based on a pointer in memory to the base image.
Thoughts?
Right. The absence of the seal tells us that for sure.
And if you compare the photos of my daughter’s death cert to the photo of Obama’s birth cert, you see a totally different appearance surrounding the typed words. On the real cert, on pink security paper, there is no white space at all. It’s all pink except where the ink is. But on Obama’s there is white surrounding all the print. The same process was used for both those photos: a digital photo C&P’ed into Word and then the whole file saved as a PDF so people could enlarge the images to see clearly. If there was anything goofy from file formats it should have done the same thing to both images.
If I understand correctly, there is a Youtube video where somebody said that those white areas on Obama’s BC prove that it was not actually a scan of print on security paper at all but that the security paper is a background graphic in the electronic PDF file. If that is the case, then Obama printed out the manipulated PDF using a color printer and tried to pass it off as security paper.
I didn’t put it in this particular article - probably will put it in a different article and link to it - but there’s another reason to believe that the copies of the BC that Obama made and distributed were not from the real birth certificate at all: when they scanned the image of the birth certificate to make copies for the reporters, bleed-through from page 2 of their stack of copies (Obama’s COLB, which was under the page being scanned) was picked up by the scanner. (You can see that at http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-birth-certificate-released-white-house/story?id=13467977 . Have to magnify the image to about 150-175%, tip your screen back, and look near where the doctor’s signature is.)
That wouldn’t happen with a real birth certificate, which HDOH Administrative Rules require to be on heavier security paper. And I have also tested that with my daughter’s death cert, and Danae has tested for me whether bleed-through from a paper behind it would happen when her COLB was scanned as well. Both those documents were on security paper and did NOT allow bleed-through from behind.
It WOULD happen with the White House’s thinner copy paper - as can be seen because the distributed packet’s copy of the COLB (page 2 in their packet, at http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/See-photos-Obama-birth-certificate/ss/events/pl/042711obamabirthcert#photoViewer=/110427/480/urn_publicid_ap_org_ca51d340407f463f82b930c0e3743af0 ) also has page 3 bleeding through on the scan - the lawyer’s letter requesting the BC. So we know that their copy paper is thin enough to allow bleed-through from other pages behind the one being scanned. But security paper would not allow that.
So when they copied the long-form BC it was not from a genuine certified BC. It was scanned from a thinner piece of paper that would allow bleed-through from the page behind it. Like a piece of printer/copier paper you’d use when you printed out a PDF image that had the background cross-hatches removed.
That tells us that the “white copy” of the BC that Obama distributed to the reporters was not taken directly from the certified BC on security paper, but was first printed out on thinner paper and THEN scanned, picking up the bleed-through from the COLB right behind it in the stack.
This will be a lot easier to explain when I can post the actual images and you can see what I’m talking about. I’ll try to get a post up on my blog soon.
That would be the competent way to do this. They’re counting on ridicule to keep the issue from gaining traction and corrupt judges to insure it never gets a legal ruling. Basically they are rubbing our faces in the current reality, that we could have absolute proof that Obama is a crook, and we couldn’t find one way to actually do anything about it.
That’s why this really isn’t about Obama, but about the utter failure of the system that is SUPPOSED to allow us to hold our government accountable. As long as there are crooks within government doing CYA for the other crooks in government, and the courts insist that holding the government accountable to the rule of law is NOBODY’S BUSINESS, we are no better off than any other third-world banana republic.
Our form of government has always been geared toward enabling the people to hold government accountable to the rule of law. The principle of accountability - a Constitution, rule by law not by men, separation of powers and checks and balances, etc - is what has made this nation exceptional, because it recognizes man’s God-given freedoms and yet deals with the reality that we are fallen and are corrupted by absolute power. Without that foundation, America is nothing. And that’s where we’re at right now, although we have a lot of patriots who love this country and want us to get back to our foundations.
The epic battle for this nation’s survival will be the battle over whether the rule of law and accountability to the people can be achieved by the people working against a corrupt and badly-broken system. That’s the real issue, and somehow we need to come up with a game plan to MAKE this happen.
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Let reporters from the major news networks go to Hawaii and examine and photograph the Obama original long form birth certificate that Hawaii says is in a bound book.
Nordyke Twins: At the same time, the reporters could examine and photograph the Nordyke birth certificates, because I would think that they would be in the same bound book as is Obama's long form, because the twins were born in the same Kapiolani Hospital and only one day apart: Aug. 4 and Aug. 5.
Letting reporters examine Obama's long form birth certificate in the Hawaii archives would go a long way in putting this Obama long form birth certificate to rest.
The whole situation is ridiculous.
Good Lord! The HDOH tells me that it will take them 6 months from the date of my request to make 4 copies from their 1960-64 birth index.
Someday I’m going to sue them for all the money folks have had to pay PI’s, to do the work that the HDOH is paid to do but too crooked to do.
Fuddy said she would make an exception to their current practice (just this once they will actually follow their law and rules, in other words) and would issue a certified long-form. She said she sent two certified copies of his long-form birth certificate as requested.
There’s no way for them to get around it. She said that’s what she sent, but that’s not what Obama posted. Clearly he posted something other than what she sent, unless she lied - in which case she is the one who needs to be arrested and put on trial rather than just him.
At this point nothing with reporters would solve anything. This whole pool of reporters supposedly had access to a certified long-form and they couldn’t even tell it was just a printed-out PDF.
Pathetic. Can anybody really be that stupid, or does this have to be criminal negligence on their part, to not even check for a certifying seal?
And there’s something else too. People who live in Hawaii can see the 1960-64 birth index. Us haoles on the mainland have to wait 6 months to get a copy from the birth index, but people in Hawaii can look at that index. BUT THE INDEX ITSELF HAS BEEN ALTERED TO INCLUDE SEALED AND/OR LEGALLY INVALID RECORDS. So even if we see what is actually in the HDOH office it doesn’t mean we’re seeing anything authentic.
The only way we could know that we were seeing non-manipulated records is by seeing the embedded transaction logs that show whether the record has been manipulated/altered/reassigned/fabricated. And I say that because I have observed and documented SO MUCH law-breaking and manipulation by the HDOH that I know what they are capable of.
This Stig Waidelich, whose “date filed” was supposedly Aug 8th like Obama’s, supposedly had a BC# that was something like 200 off from the BC#’s either Obama or the Nordyke twins were assigned. They expect us to believe they hop around by 200 in a single day? Sorry, charlie. I think it’s much more probable that CNN and Fuddy were in contact to know that Waidelich would be coming in requesting his BC so Fuddy could change the number just for when his COLB copy was issued, in order to try to put off the questions about why Obama’s BC# is out of sequence with the Nordykes.
If we had access to the transaction logs we could find out if they did that. Every crooked thing they do is waiting in the database to be found out. We just need a state to pass a law giving normal people legal standing to challenge presidential eligibility, including the right to subpoena transaction logs and/or complete vital records history.
I don’t see your work proving the ‘impossibility’ of what is purported.
Care to divulge your insight?
Some are stupid and some are criminal.
Why would the U.S.A. knowingly counterfiet its own currency?
Wouldn't it just be easier to just exploit the debt?
This statement would appear at least valid on its surface:
So I have to say, & there is no other way to say it: all charges that the LFBC could be a forgery are utterly illogical.Wow. I suppose its a good thing you don't have access to issues of 'national security'. Your argument is actually fairly reasoned, if reason could possibly prevail, in opposition to the 'missile-launch' crowd from a few days ago. Remember how dire things were then?
The post-quake assessment probably set it all up for you, eh?
So the Bamster had to conduct this mission, eh? That is, to hide the error of his previous ways?
What's the name of the planet you live on? Don't tell me that its "Earth" nor that you're a member of FreeRepublic (in good standing); neither of those is true.
And of course we have no way of knowing what was actually sent out along with that letter, whatever it was.
How much info do you require? That is, do you have any graphic background at all. I assume if so it's fairly limited.
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