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To: Seizethecarp
"The voting public, particularly independents, might react badly to Obama being forced by partisans to defend his eligibility by proving that is is a "bastard." So, AGAIN, we are to be hamstrung by RINOs and those who, to borrow a golfing expression, won't "play it as it lies."
3 posted on 05/02/2011 9:01:41 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: Pecos
“So, AGAIN, we are to be hamstrung by RINOs and those who, to borrow a golfing expression, won't ‘play it as it lies.’”

The RINO’s threw the Constitution out the window when they cut the deal not to contest Obama’s NBC status in exchange for Dems and MSM (NY Times) dropping challenge to McCain.

Elites of both parties want to protect eligibility of marketable candidates (Jindal, Rubio, future Democratic anchor baby nominees) too valuable to be rendered ineligible by “loopholes” (as Obama put it when endorsing Senate Resolution 511). The NBC clause is a “loophole” to these folks.

4 posted on 05/02/2011 9:13:19 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Pecos

The argument is that we know how the investigation would turn out, so we wouldn’t win, but would cause political damage to our side.

What’s the point of raising the issue of his NBC status if your legal conclusion is that he is NBC because of statutory rape?

I admit I hadn’t thought of that, because I’ve been hung up on the biological aspect of NBC, not considering that it would be a legal thing. Thus, I have asked before whether the child of a single mother who doesn’t know the father (such as a sperm donor) could be President under the NBC rule, since he wouldn’t be able to prove “both parents” were NBC.

But logically, if the guy’s father was a sperm donor, there wouldn’t be a “tie” to another country if that father was foreign.


7 posted on 05/02/2011 9:21:01 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Pecos
It is established US and international law going back to The Law of Nations at the time of the founders (IIRC) that the illegitimate child of a single mother does NOT receive nationality from the father. This is explicitly written into the 1948 BNA.

That is what Leo is finally affirming, IMO.

Constitutionalists, IMO, will support this interpretation.

The problem facing Constitutionalists is that Obama’s supposed declaration implying (while not stating) that he WAS a dual citizen of the UK and Kenya at birth creates the appearance of an unconstitutional legal precedent!

This false precedent, that a dual citizen at birth is eligible to be president, must not be allowed to stand and must be contested to the bitter end, even if it means Barry must be declared to be a bastard at the end of the process.

8 posted on 05/02/2011 9:27:37 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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