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Wayne Madsen: Foreign Intelligence Agencies Say Obama Birth Certificate Is Fake
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| 28 April 2011
| Wayne Madsen via Fellowship of Minds
Posted on 04/28/2011 8:40:53 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: dayglored
The registrar can not just pick the term he wants to use. He will be limited to Caucasian, Mongoloid, Negroid or Mixed race. The key to the question is in 1961 was the term for Negroid one of the following, Black, Negroid, Negro or African.
I do know for a fact that to use the term African or Black would have been an insult in those days. The polite term would have been Negro or Colored. Oddly political correctness has now made the formerly polite terms an insult and the formerly insulting terms correct.
Why in the hell would Hawaii use a term for a black man that is insulting in 1961.
This does not pass the smell test.
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posted on
04/28/2011 10:00:18 PM PDT
by
cpdiii
(Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
To: Fractal Trader
In the United Kingdom, the terms black and Asian were used in the 1961 census to describe those who were non-white British nationals. Barack Obama, Sr., as a citizen of the British Colony of Kenya, would have known that his British racial designation was black in 1961. The term African was not used as a racial designation in either the colony of Kenya or on the British mainland. In South Africa and other British colonies in Africa, Coloured was used to describe those of mixed white-black descent.
And "African" was not used for birth certificates for US Vital Statistic regulations reporting in 1961. See yellow highlight.
To: Cicero
So, thats three things at least that use later language rather than the language of the time. Is that because the Hawaii department fiddled with it? Or did they just invent it at some point?
All excellent points including the fact that it is not a BC, but another COLB. Not only another COLB, but a COLB at odds with the purported one originally released by his campaign staff.
This begs the question as to why now? Especially on the day that the FED and Bernanke made their "big" announcements.
On the top of the document it says COLB and yet every major media outlet reported it as a long form birth certificate. Even the trolls here on FR were ready to proclaim it as a BC. Why?
Finally the COLB as presented proves that Obama is not a natural born citizen and not constitutionally eligible for the office. Again why post it?
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posted on
04/28/2011 10:14:46 PM PDT
by
PA Engineer
(Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
To: Fractal Trader
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posted on
04/28/2011 10:39:43 PM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: Cicero
You make a good point. There was no Kenya until December 1963 and the place didn’t officially become the Republic of Kenya until a year later. My only question would be, what would be the motive for releasing such a blundering, obvious forgery?
To: dayglored
"... Madsen says intelligence agencies around the world have scrutinized the birth certificate and decided its fake because of one word on the document. The word African was used to designate the race..." I read somewhere that in the Kremlin, our country used to be referred to as the Main Adversary
, but nowadays, the common appellation is New Africa
. LOL! Those Rooskies are such racists!
46
posted on
04/28/2011 10:48:10 PM PDT
by
cynwoody
To: RummyChick
All one has to do is ACTUALLY listen to SCOTUS discuss this issue to realize it is not settled law. When and if the law ever decides to settle, look to what John Roberts did twice on 20 January 2009 for a hint as to the outcome. Stare decisis!
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posted on
04/28/2011 11:01:59 PM PDT
by
cynwoody
To: dayglored
Of course it is .... take Ron Paul & Dennis Kucinich, for example
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posted on
04/28/2011 11:12:51 PM PDT
by
sofaman
(An enemy generally says and believes what he wishes. Thomas Jefferson)
To: trumandogz
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER DISCUSS AGENTS S, C AND P HERE ON A PUBLIC FORUM!!!!!
YOU PUT THEIR LIVES IN DANGER EVERYTIME YOU DO!!!!!!!
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posted on
04/28/2011 11:16:46 PM PDT
by
MindBender26
(While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in America.)
To: Cringing Negativism Network
Was officially known as BEA, but had been known as Kenya for centuries. For example, an indig conscript troops, British officer led military battalion, called the “Kenya Rifles” fought in WWI.
All named after eons old Mount Kenya.
Two names are not unusual. The 13th state's official name is “The State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.”
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posted on
04/28/2011 11:26:19 PM PDT
by
MindBender26
(While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in America.)
To: Cicero
My question is how did the doctor sign it the same day as the day it was registered? That seems a bit odd.
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posted on
04/28/2011 11:36:15 PM PDT
by
klamath
(growth of the welfare state is difficult to check before it comes to its full flower of dictatorship)
To: Cicero
Still studying the released document, having noticed the differences between it at the Rosetta Stone CB from the Happy Even within days of What's-His Name's" birthday.
Nevertheless, I recall that on the aging comparison BC the hospital's name was the same.
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posted on
04/29/2011 12:01:21 AM PDT
by
Prospero
(non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
To: trumandogz
They are known to him as Agents Snap Crackle and Pop
His advisor on naval matters is Captain Crunch.
53
posted on
04/29/2011 2:42:04 AM PDT
by
Cheburashka
(Democratic Underground: The Hogwarts of stupid.)
To: Fractal Trader
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:54:38 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
To: Cicero
"Also, Kenya was NOT the name of the country back then. It was British East Africa, a British Colony." I collected stamps as a child. I have almost a complete collection of "Kenya-Uganda-Tanganyika" stamps from the late 1940's with George VI's face on them, and another complete set with the same three countries named on each stamp only with a young Queen Elizabeth's image (after 1953).
If, as you suggest, it wasn't known as "Kenya", why did that name appear on postage stamps from that era?
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posted on
04/29/2011 3:58:42 AM PDT
by
CanaGuy
(Go Harper! We still love you!)
To: Fractal Trader
To: CanaGuy
I think the three countries shared stamps to save money.
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posted on
04/29/2011 4:04:05 AM PDT
by
CanaGuy
(Go Harper! We still love you!)
To: Fractal Trader
You mean Obama’s lying (again)- now there’s a shocker!
Hey, if war in Libya won’t wag the dog, why not try some phony paper?
To: dayglored
How many black babies do you think were born in the islands between 1960 and 1965? Bet it isn't many except for possibly some military. If Trump would offer a reward for someone to bring forth one we might get some movement.
To: ansel12
Don’t know this guy, but I do know one ex-CIA guy that can pick up the phone and speak directly to the inside guys at about agency in the world. They all owe him for stuff in the past. Clearly not a desk jockey. He is my definition of a powerful man.
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