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1. Demonstrate that the certificate the White House released is NOT what was received from Hawaii.

or,

2. Demonstrate that the certificates the State of Hawaii supplied are themselves forged.

or,

3. Demonstrate that the letter posted from Loretta J Fuddy is a forgery.

Unless you can do one (or more) of the three, and do so in an iron-clad manner, you really don’t have anything (as far as I can tell) that demonstrates the new certificate is a forgery.

The presence of layers in the PDF could well turn out to be relevant to one of the three items above, but unless you can convincingly demonstrate the layers aren’t “innocently” there, that fact alone does not seem sufficient to label the release a forgery.

"The presence of layers [...] alone does not seem sufficient to label the release a forgery."

ummmm yes it does.

there is no possible reason for a flat sheet of paper, photocopied or scanned into pdf, should have removable layers- no reason at all.

The LAYERS are part of the PDF file format when created in Photoshop.

The fact you can open the PDF and see layers at all is stunning- you can compress them down to one layer when you are done, which would then have looked like a scanned image EXCEPT if you examined it pixel by pixel, and found editting artifacts.

The LAYERS were created in photoshop

I use Adobe Pro all the time, but not illustrator. The OCR mode has to be manually activated, and is not an 'automatic',and I have routinely had scanning done for 10+ years with various versions, and never had this OCR whiteness issue happen even ONCE on any of my scanned documents. So this supposedly 'chronic' behavior appears to be rather less than such.

And I frequently do have to enable OCR for purposes of replying to lengthy documents by cutting and pasting, and still have not noted any such behavior. Maybe I am missing it but, it appears the defenses of the Obama certificate legitimacy are the ones with the "weak" objections to the objection here.

That being said, I really am not concerned whether this document is forged...since Obama has asserted it is the real deal...now we can demonstrably prove his ineligibility due to the non-citizen father...a clear violation of all constitutional and case law on "natural born" status. Too bad Beck appears to be legally ignorant, and misreads the 14th Amendment's citizenship provision...which never revoked the Presidentiaal office requirement. Which may be the reason Obama refused to release it from the beginning. So we should simply commence an appropriate U.S. House hearing on the eligibilty legal question, since the Supreme Court has refused to take the issue, and force it into the lime-light. This isn't a 'birther' issue. It is the U.S.Constitution.

Adhere to it.