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To: Mr. K
The answer would appear to be in posts 95, 121, 122, and 138.

Apparently there is commonly used software (Adobe Acrobat, I would surmise) that does Optical Character Recognition on a scanned document in the process of converting it to a PDF, and splits the scanned image into actual text where it detects characters that can be converted, plus images, then recombines those into the pdf.

Apparently it does this for the sake of making the resulting document text-searchable.

Again, in order to challenge the validity of this document, as far as I can tell, one needs to:

1. Demonstrate that the certificate the White House released is NOT what was received from Hawaii.

or,

2. Demonstrate that the certificates the State of Hawaii supplied are themselves forged.

or,

3. Demonstrate that the letter posted from Loretta J Fuddy is a forgery.

Unless you can do one (or more) of the three, and do so in an iron-clad manner, you really don’t have anything (as far as I can tell) that demonstrates the new certificate is a forgery.

The presence of layers in the PDF could well turn out to be relevant to one of the three items above, but unless you can convincingly demonstrate the layers aren’t “innocently” there, that fact alone does not seem sufficient to label the release a forgery.

OR: Find another angle (e.g., Leo Donofrio's) by which the document is irrelevant and Obama is ineligible in spite of having been born in the US. I haven't delved deeply enough into Donofrio's writings, but I have seen at least one judicial writing going back (I think) to the mid 1800s that expressed that any person born in the US even of alien parents not of diplomats/ others who were not subject to US jurisdiction is a natural born citizen.

Perhaps it's a dual-citizenship angle, as he was indisputably a dual citizen of the UK/then Kenya and the US. His own web site admits this.

Perhaps he lost his citizenship when adopted by Soetoro. Although the small bit of judicial comment I've seen on this doesn't seem promising, either.

And of course, the other option is to defeat Obama politically based on his wrong-headed and disastrous policies.

218 posted on 04/27/2011 1:14:08 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Please explain why the black text of the cert is deformed from being part of a photocopied bond book while the security impression is perfectly square.

Look at post 47.


227 posted on 04/27/2011 1:25:20 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Jeff Winston
Perhaps it's a dual-citizenship angle, as he was indisputably a dual citizen of the UK/then Kenya and the US. His own web site admits this.

Perhaps he lost his citizenship when adopted by Soetoro.

Please, the dual-citizenship angle is a non-starter. While another country -- in this case the UK or Indonesia -- might recognize somebody as a dual-citizen, the US did not.

Under American law, the parents could not sign away or otherwise pre-empt what was a child's birthright -- US citizenship.

While Indonesia may have considered him an Indonesian citizen, that did not negate Obama's US citizenship -- unless he himself chose to renounce it upon achieving the age of 18.

There being no evidence of his ever renouncing his US citizenship, then he is ipso facto an American citizen by virtue of having been born in the United States.

Note that I am not addressing the so-called "natural-born citizen" issue. Nor do I wish to.

233 posted on 04/27/2011 1:34:48 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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