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Dems Use Birth Certificate Issue to Raise Money
newsmax ^ | 22-april-2011 | Andra Varin

Posted on 04/23/2011 3:46:27 PM PDT by OL Hickory

Democrats may be upset with all the questions about President Barack Obama’s birthplace, but some are starting to use the issue to their advantage.

The Democratic Governors Association has sent a fundraising letter asking donors to give money to help stop bills requiring birth certificates for presidential candidates being considered in various red states,

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; allegedlyamerican; allegedlyeligible; birth; certificate; certifigate; money; naturalborncitizen
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To: Fantasywriter
Yeah, right; it’s really helping the Dems. No, really, it IS. It’s just that all the evidence indicates otherwise.

LoL. The Dems will use any method of delusions or otherwise to get money out of their constituency.

21 posted on 04/23/2011 7:00:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: OL Hickory

OF COURSE they do — because “Birthers” are portrayed as fanatics — and many ACT like it. It will play well FOR the Progressives, and it will HURT Conservatives. There are WAYS to pursue truth without going Quixotic and tilting at windmills.


22 posted on 04/23/2011 7:13:59 PM PDT by patriot preacher
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To: Fantasywriter

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23 posted on 04/23/2011 7:15:19 PM PDT by Little Pharma
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To: Little Pharma

“Conservatives have to focus like a laser beam on the deficit, economy, and lack of coherent foreign policy.”

With John Boehner as speaker?!? The man has no backbone and rolls over for the media. He’s a scared little boy.

The idiots that voted for Little Stevie Dunham may latch onto his INELIGIBILTY...and be pissed at being lied to, not only about his parentage or race or religion but everything else he’s lied about.

If we wait for the republicans to convince the masses that we’re on the wrong track, Soros will be back in office.

Ignoring the eligibility issue is looking a gift horse in the mouth.


24 posted on 04/23/2011 7:31:01 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Little Pharma

Good argument! You’ve convinced me. /s

Actually, a long line of ‘z’s is tantamount to admitting you have no argument. Which you never did. All you had from the beginning was, ‘I said it so it must be true’.

Unpersuasive.


25 posted on 04/23/2011 7:47:40 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Red Steel

To be honest, I’m wondering if even the moonbats will shell out $ to this campaign. They are being asked to help Obama keep his BC under lock and key. Meanwhile, they are paying ever higher prices for fuel and food, and they see Obama selling them out over escalating wars, Gitmo, single payer, and a host of other leftie issues. Will they pony up to keep Obama’s BC a deep dark secret?

That remains to be seen. Just because the Dems are using it as a fundraising appeal doesn’t mean it will be the rainmaker they hope.


26 posted on 04/23/2011 8:14:41 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: OL Hickory

It’d seem Dems would be MAD about this issue. Instead of spending $2 million plus... just SHOW THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

Taking a political position that we don’t follow the basic laws of this country is a political loser.

Obama will be in the 30s soon in polls. This is an easy issue for average Americans to understand: Your gas prices are high and you have no job and your future is looking bad because we’ve got a Usurper selling out our country.

It’s a winner for Republicans and an easy knock out punch. Obama obviously can’t show the BC because... he either can’t (doesn’t exist), can’t because he’d be disqualified (location of birth), or he can’t politically (he changed his name later in life to Barack Hussein Obama).

Republicans absolutely should pursue this issue. It’s a winner.


27 posted on 04/23/2011 11:31:37 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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28 posted on 04/24/2011 7:31:06 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Little Pharma

Your are delusional. The Dems love the “birther” non-issue.

..........................................

Are you a dem???


29 posted on 04/24/2011 7:32:06 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

No but you see it everyday in the media. Every Republican who grants an interview is grilled and every potential presidential candiate is asked to go on the record. Classic “gotcha” journalism. Trying to separate us into camps and setting up “birthers” for a “told you so” moment.

Why do you think that it has not been settled. Everyone is right, if Obama wanted this put to rest, he could do so. he loves all of this.

Clinton did this non-stop. Make the GOP demand cooperation or recvords. They’d grumble that they were being oppressed by the mean GOP. They’d balk, we’d demand. And finally they’d relent and the information we demanded showed that they were correct and what we had hoped to find in the records was not there. Example: Fishy Rose Law Firm records that showed up in Hillary’s closet. We demanded, screamed and eventually they came up with them and the story was not, where were they, but that there was nothing there. They are pros at this.

At best, if there ever was anything incriminating on such a document, don’t you think its cleaned up by now?

That’s why I’m saying, its a non-issue. Even if you are absolutely right, it can never be resolved the way you hope it will be.


30 posted on 04/24/2011 8:36:09 AM PDT by Little Pharma
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To: Little Pharma

At best, if there ever was anything incriminating on such a document, don’t you think its cleaned up by now?

That’s why I’m saying, its a non-issue. Even if you are absolutely right, it can never be resolved the way you hope it will be.


The short form COLB (4 versions of which have been floated) ties in with other document fraud that Obama has perpetrated. The forged Selective Service document using a SSN reserved for residents of CT. The use of multiple SSNs. Eligibility may not be the issue for him, he may be discovery of a long history of document and identity fraud.

It IS a winning issue. Have the dems continue to make excuses why Obama is unable to provide a Certificate of Live Birth and not the Certification, which was issued in 2007. See which independents and Hillary supporters (PUMA’s) will to contribute to his re-election coffers with his continued reluctance to address the issue head on.

And when Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is released he will become a cause celebre.

The issue is not going away. deal with it, until Obama does.


31 posted on 04/24/2011 9:03:54 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

We’re going to have to agree to disagree. I see no ups and a lot of downs.

But, maybe I’m getting ahead of myself. What do you think will be revealed when the BC is presented and what do you think the result will be?


32 posted on 04/24/2011 10:29:30 AM PDT by Little Pharma
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To: Little Pharma

“But, maybe I’m getting ahead of myself. What do you think will be revealed when the BC is presented and what do you think the result will be?”

That’s when he gets to start answering questions about how much taxpayer money he spent concealing the BC in court, and why.


33 posted on 04/24/2011 11:09:53 AM PDT by COgamer
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To: OL Hickory
Democrats may be upset with all the questions about President Barack Obama’s birthplace, but some are starting to use the issue to their advantage.

Trying to raise money in order to prevent yourself from being exposed as a complete and total fraud is NOT typically referred to as gaining any sort of advantage. It's more commonly referred to as being on the defensive, and in this case probably scared sh!tless of what might happen if the US Constitution is actually enforced.

34 posted on 04/24/2011 11:32:57 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American)
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To: Little Pharma
Your are delusional. The Dems love the “birther” non-issue.

Democrats are delusional if they think they can fight against the eligibility clauses of the US Constitution without attracting more attention to it. And it's obviously an issue, or they wouldn't be asking for dollars to help them fight it. They may have been able to prevent the Federal Government from enforcing it, but stopping each individual state will be much more difficult. Especially since the citizens are now much wiser to the scheme than they were in 2008.

35 posted on 04/24/2011 11:39:10 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American)
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To: Little Pharma
What do you think will be revealed when the BC is presented and what do you think the result will be?

Depends on what it says. But so far neither of the two different hospitals he and his family have claimed he was born at have any record showing that he actually was born there, so it appears at a minimum it will blow holes in some of his previous claims. And you're assuming he's ever going to release something, while so far there's no evidence he ever intends to.

You seem too scared and intimidated to even ask the question. At best.

36 posted on 04/24/2011 11:49:52 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American)
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To: Golden Eagle

I think that you’re mistaking internet blog gossip with facts. Again, Believe what you want, I just don’t think its going anywhere and worse, they are enjoying the diversion.


37 posted on 04/24/2011 1:43:48 PM PDT by Little Pharma
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To: Little Pharma
I think that you’re mistaking internet blog gossip with facts.

Actually, I'm relying on the specific Hawaiian law which clearly allows for babies born outside of their state to receive certifications of birth exactly like Obama has. The exact statute is 338-17.8, but don't let that stop you from spreading false internet blog gossip.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm

38 posted on 04/24/2011 2:03:32 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American)
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