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To: flowerplough

UI is about minimum wage. How come 14+ million illegal aliens will work minimum wage but Americans don’t seem to wantto?


22 posted on 04/18/2011 7:35:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad

Funny you should bring illegal aliens into the discussion. Illegals have taken most entry level jobs in this country that allowed young people and those unemployed that need a career change to have a rung on the ladder up. People used to be able to start at the bottom and if they had drive they could work their way up in the business, and many ended up in management or owning their own business. The bottom rung jobs have been taken by illegals for years so possibility of working your way up is basically gone from this country. If you don’t have the skills to start a new job a few rungs up the ladder you will not be hired by anyone that hires illegals.

When illegals are hired in a workplace, it is very hard for citizens to get jobs at that business any more. The owner doesn’t want citizens and illegals working side by side as the citizens may report him. The owner also saves a lot of money by hiring illegals and not providing benefits or in many cases even paying the basic payroll taxes and what have you. The other issue is illegals will band together and network any jobs that come up out to relatives and friends, they will also treat any citizens co-workers so bad it is impossible to work in jobs with them if you are not senior to them.

Illegals can work cheaper than citizens because they can take advantage of social services for their health care, food stamps, rent and utility subsidies, free breakfast and lunches for the kids and on an on. The dirty secret is that illegals can’t live on the low wages either- the taxpayers have to make up the difference for them to work for those wages. Unless a citizen is willing to get on all the programs they cannot survive on the wages illegals are paid.

As far as illegals doing jobs citizens won’t- that is so much liberal BS...every time there is a workplace raid that removes illegal employees in any number- citizens DO line up to apply for the jobs. It has happened over and over.

I agree that no one should be on unemployment one day longer than necessary, and anyone should be willing to take a job that pays less or be willing to change careers or relocate to find a new job. It is just totally unfair to bring illegals into the equation unless you want the unemployed to be so underemployed that they are basically supported by the taxpayers as illegals are.


38 posted on 04/19/2011 10:06:37 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: CodeToad

The other issue about illegals, don’t kid yourself that they are all hard working and responsible- that is more liberal/amnesty BS for sure. Whatever number are here- you used the 14+ million- many- MANY of them are CAREER CRIMINALS that keep our jails and prisons overcrowded continually. Do you really want the unemployed to take up a life of crime like large numbers of illegals have?

If you really want a viable solution to our economic problems that involves illegals, you should be hard at work making the politicians strictly enforce the laws. If we secure the border and round up illegals and deport them we would not only have much lower unemployment, we would save tons of money on health care, education, court systems, jails, prisons, welfare...you name it.


39 posted on 04/19/2011 10:16:35 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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