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Why Get Angry w/ Trump for Doing Heavy Lifting Lily-Livered Republicans Couldn't be Bothered With?
Reaganite Republican ^ | April 17, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 04/17/2011 5:03:42 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

Isn't it kind of a loser mentality to get mad 
at someone for running circles around you 
while making everybody look incompetent...?


Hey, I'm not endorsing Donald Trump for president: pretty ruthless guy, I'd really have to think about it. Then there's having to endure four -or more- years of the ceaseless bragging, I dunno lol.

But I'm absolutely delighted to see somebody, anybody actively seeking some clarification on all Obama was inexplicably allowed to hide. I can't see why EVERY American wouldn't be happy to see it... who but a criminal, coward, or fool would fear the truth, anyway?.

Obviously, Trump wants something in return... and we all know what that is. You say you don't want Trump to pull this off... and ride the issue right to the White House? 

Maybe somebody -like the frickin GOP- should have got off their fat asses and done something a long, long time ago: blame THEM, not Trump for doing what Republicans and the Obammunist hacks of the MSM should have been doing the whole time... I'd hate to see Mitt muss up that hair of his.

Isn't it kind of a loser mentality to get mad at someone for running circles around you and making everybody look incompetent?

Of course it is: and most of today's GOP are losers... just look how they handled this budget mess. On the other hand, Donald Trump's a proven winner... and it shows. The presidency's right there for the taking for anyone willing to take on the unholy alliance of the MSM/Progs... who are basically just punks, sure don't know what these little Republican worms were ever afraid of in the first place.

GOOD FOR TRUMP if he wants to step up to the plate and endure the flak from both sides- I for one am delighted to have him spending his own money to uncover the harsh reality of this Trotskyite Trojan-Horse we went and stuck ourselves with... it's not Trump's fault if it gets him elected, in fact he'd deserve the prize at that point.

And the country? I guess we pretty much will have to take whatever a Trump presidency brings if he built an electoral victory from this... just like it's Americans' own fault for allowing Obama to get in at all: we failed in selecting Obama, and we failed as a nation to ensure he was even qualified! 

How many felt obligated to vote for Barack Obama in 2008 primarily to "prove they're not racist"-? 

Idiots- good thing Trump doesn't care what anybody thinks in the sort of way that weak-minded, insecure people do. And do you really think Trump would have jumped-in with both feet like this if he didn't already have some serious dirt on Barack Obama?


Stay tuned~ this is gonna be great.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: americaisproofers; birther; certifigate; obama; perot2point0; proofers; republicans; romney; romney4impostor; romney4ineligible; romney4obama; trump
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To: Will88

So you think that Cain is too much of an unknown to be running for office a year and a half before the election?

Well I guess only Romney and Palin need apply for the nomination. All the other candidates, T-Paw, Daniels, Huntsman, et. al., should just give up right now because they are too unknown to run.

And exactly when do you believe that newcomers should start to campaign? If I recall correctly, this was precisely the time “newcomer” Barak Obama began his campaign and he was pretty successful.

Maybe you need to come up with a valid reason why you believe conservatives shouldn’t support a genuine conservative candidate. We shouldn’t let the media do the thinking for us.


81 posted on 04/17/2011 8:32:47 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: iontheball

Yup!! Right on the money. Who besides me is sick to death of Tammy Faye and the Tammettes caving in to the Democrats and telling us it the best they could do? If what they are up to right now is the best they can do I’m voting for The Donald.


82 posted on 04/17/2011 8:35:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: dirtboy
But because he is now going after Obama, too many freepers are willing to overlook his past as to his suitability to be the GOP nominee. I'm not.

Lincoln picked Grant as his top general against the advice of his staff.....when told that Grant was a drunk Lincoln responded ..."find out what he's drinking and ship a case to my generals" we need a fighter not a politician... and Trump like Grant is a fighter.


83 posted on 04/17/2011 8:44:43 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Lincoln picked Grant as his top general against the advice of his staff.....when told that Grant was a drunk Lincoln responded ..."find out what he's drinking and ship a case to my generals" we need a fighter not a politician... and Trump like Grant is a fighter.

Another thing I have noticed about the Trump boosters - they cannot answer challenges to Trump's lack of conservatism directly. So they respond with completely pointless comments like yours.

BTW, Grant was a good general, but he wasn't much of a president, so your comparison sure did backfire on you.

84 posted on 04/17/2011 8:51:37 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Yaelle
Yes, the mainstream GOP elites are total losers. We needed someone out there saying this. I couldn’t care less who. Mainstream GOP are scared of their own shadows, scared of being called names, scared of standing out, scared to take stands, scared of their own platforms. They back down if a breeze blows.

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85 posted on 04/17/2011 8:52:58 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: Waryone
So you think that Cain is too much of an unknown to be running for office a year and a half before the election?

It's more like ten or so months until the Republican nominee will be determined, not a year and a-half.

Few little known candidates have ever entered a presidential primary and won during their first attempt. Obama was an exception for many reasons that won't be repeated, but even he was put before the public at the 2004 Dim National Convention.

But Cain would have to do something to boost his support beyond the already better known candidates, and it's very unlikely there is anything he can say or do to accomplish that during his initial exposure to most American voters.

That's just a reality and all your protesting won't change that historical fact. He should run again later if he shows promise during the coming primaries.

86 posted on 04/17/2011 8:53:06 AM PDT by Will88
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To: dirtboy
Grant was a good general, but he wasn't much of a president

In time of war......we need a warrior ....not a pol. he served his country with distinction.

87 posted on 04/17/2011 9:01:16 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
In time of war......we need a warrior ....not a pol. he served his country with distinction.

Dude, we are talking about Trump as president, not Chairman of the JCS.

My point stands - the Trump boosters are utterly unable to make a conservative case as to why Trump should be president.

88 posted on 04/17/2011 9:04:04 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Dude, we are talking about Trump as president, not Chairman of the JCS.

Dude.....We are talking about the Commander In Chief

89 posted on 04/17/2011 9:12:49 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Where have I heard this argument before - that a NE RINO would be a good general?

Oh, that's right, with the Rudy pimps.

Trump thinks we should turn tail and run. Some general.

90 posted on 04/17/2011 9:22:14 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Reaganite Republican
You're correct.

The GOP doesn't deserve the POTUS if it cannot take this issue on.

If Trump is the only one who will drive the rule of law in the matter, he deserves whatever benefit it brings him. And, Trump was CORRECT to chastise Cantor for being a pussy.

91 posted on 04/17/2011 9:24:51 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Reaganite Republican; All
Anyone know Trump's position on illegal immigration?

If he announces he would build an impenetrable wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico, he would be a shoe-in for election.

92 posted on 04/17/2011 9:29:51 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Will88

I don’t have to protest. I’m just confounded by the naysayers who always have an excuse as to why we can’t support genuine conservative candidates. They are willing to settle for outright liberals and phony backstabbing conservatives (like Romney and McCain) because it fits their belief system. Unfortunately their fears of media access seem to have the most influence on them. Believe me, you are not the only one cowed by the media into eliminating the right people for the job.

We should pay more attention to what candidates are actually saying and have actually done in their lives and not worry so much about whether there is enough favorable media attention or enough time to influence public opinion. We need to do what is right. We need to find a genuine conservative and support them, not diddle around waiting for the MSM to create a media star.

Your belief is just a symptom of the problems of our current day election process. It may be ten months before the first primary, but it is well over a year before the nomination itself. Maybe you aren’t, but I’m old enough to remember when no one declared until before the first primary. They had more than enough time to get known and the primary process itself did a lot to determine how well known the candidates became. Herman Cain has plenty of time. So do most of the others who are contemplating running.

If we keep agonizing over media popularity, only media darlings will ever be able to run for office and isn’t that how we got into this mess today?


93 posted on 04/17/2011 9:36:29 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Waryone
. Believe me, you are not the only one cowed by the media into eliminating the right people for the job.

I haven't eliminated anyone, but for now I'm most interested in the possibilities of Trump and Palin. If Cain pulls off some miracle and becomes a viable candidate his first time out, then I'd consider him more seriously.

But that's just not the way it usually works and it's not because the media is eliminating anyone. It's because most Americans never heard of Herman Cain. We have to remember that most voters pay little attention to potential candidates until campaigns and debates start. That's when Cain will have his chance to convince more people, but it's a tough task for someone not known to most Americans.

94 posted on 04/17/2011 10:07:49 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Mariner

In one of the interviews I heard Trump say he’d MILITARIZE the Mexican/US border, which he called “a joke”

This would also stop the drug trade he said

Trump then said he’d review amnesty on a case by case basis... if anybody stays it will only because they’re an addition to the society, he also said a lot of them belong in jail or deported, not welcomed in a wide amnesty

When it was pointed out that would take years, he said it was the only fair way that’s any good for the country


95 posted on 04/17/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican
When it was pointed out that would take years, he said it was the only fair way that’s any good for the country

And Trump's views on that issue have to be considered in view of what the next Congress would go along with. But that position on amnesty is good enough because the Congress he'd be working with is very unlikely to approve any sort of amnesty because the voters don't want it.

96 posted on 04/17/2011 10:34:39 AM PDT by Will88
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To: flaglady47

I hope we aren’t Humpty Dumpty - because all the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn’t put Humpty together again!

We’ll see where he is by election 2012. If he’s representing the dem/indie faction of the Tea Party maybe he’s working to deliver that gift to Hillary. Maybe he’s the Pied Piper - leading the rats to the river.


97 posted on 04/17/2011 10:56:55 AM PDT by carmody
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To: Will88

Shouldn’t we be looking for a candidate that ROVE doesn’t like?

I mean, let’s be honest. Karl Rove generally detests any conservative running in the GOP field. He much prefers the liberal RINOs to actual conservatives.

And if memory serves, Rove HATES Trump. In fact he uses the same language to describe Trump as he does other Conservatives he has campaigned against, ie. Palin.


98 posted on 04/17/2011 11:31:25 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: kentramsay

Limited government was defeated by CWI in 1865.

I’m no Trump fan, but also I’m not idealistic enought to assume this country will ever freely elect a president with your proper concept of limited government anymore.


99 posted on 04/18/2011 11:07:13 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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