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Posted on 04/16/2011 6:42:01 PM PDT by LYNNSTOKES
Edited on 04/16/2011 6:45:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
There is a sensible way to downgrade SS that doesn’t particularly stick it to anyone. And now is a marvelous opportunity to do it.
First of all, the end result of this downgrade should be an SS system run by the States, but under federal standardization. The legitimate concept of an SS system is to provide a retirement *only* for minimum wage employees who have no other retirement, and were never paid enough to accumulate one. The federal involvement is *only* to insure that workers can transfer their SS from one State to another. The feds never again get to “hold the purse”.
Right now, the Tea Party Republicans are hoping to strongly reduce both the size of government, as well as taxes. And this gives us all a unique opportunity.
The former proposal, of “means testing” to get SS benefits was rejected by everyone, as it is truly unfair. But the alternative of this is to persuade people who feel they don’t *need* SS benefits, to not take those benefits.
The way to do this is to offer tax deductions, if they *do not* take their SS benefits, that are *greater* than their SS benefits. THEIR CHOICE.
If they need their SS money, they get it. But if they would rather make a little more money, by *not* taking it, and taking the deduction instead, this does a lot to restoring the solvency of SS. And nobody gets screwed.
The people still working, and still paying in to SS get their SS money put into an IRA, as well as tax deductions for the equivalent amount of a *second* year. So they build up their IRA quickly, at the expense of their SS account.
Certainly some math is involved, but it ends up with a radical downgrade of SS, without shafting the people involved with it. And even the money lost to taxes is returned, and then some, by the stimulation to the economy created by the tax breaks.
LOL!!!
And yet another troll. Wish I could manage to get IBTZ on some of them...
To be added or removed from the VK/ZOT ping list, FReepmail Darkwing104.
Back in 2004, there seemed to be a rash of poorly typed vanities, all zot-worthy. I always thought (and so did a few others on the site) that it was just “us” freepers creating phony accounts to post trollesque posts that we’d all play with. You want to know what they looked like? They looked like this one. I smell a little fun ‘n games by an old timer. Just my opinion.
Yes, me too. I asked paulycy to call me before the ZOT, but so far, not much action there.
IATZ isn’t so bad though. Dancing on troll graves, just another service of the Viking Kitties!
Can’t you get banned for going off and creating multiple accounts?
The old saw "It takes one to know one" certainly comes to mind.
ROTFLMAO!
I think I know who LYNNSTOKES is...
Well, the kitties will be playing with this dead mouse for hours.
I dunno. Let's ask Lynnstokes. Oh. Wait. Hmmmmm.
I mean can’t the mods ban all your accounts, not just the phony ones, but the regular ones too. I thought making up multiple accounts was a zotable offense...
This is a college prank. Bored kids in dorms do this kind of thing all the time - - pretend to be illiterate morons responding to some fabricated issue or another. Guaranteed, they are laughing their behinds off
I still love that one.
Hey, where you been? It seems as if I don’t see you much anymore.
*snort* [snicker] You may be right.
Well in all honesty, if you can have more than one email address (I have 10+ gmail accounts), there’s really no way to prevent a single identity from having multiple accounts. You can’t enforce it by IP address because A) spouses can have accounts of their own from their own single access point and B) One could post from separate IPs by posting from work or home.
So there’s no real way for ANY forum to prevent you from having multiple identities, so long as accounts can be made on the fly and only require a unique email address.
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