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Sound the Trumpet (Levin: Trump is no conservative)
Legal Insurrection ^ | 4/16/2011 | William Jacobson

Posted on 04/16/2011 7:32:47 AM PDT by Lakeshark

There's not much I can add to Mark Levin's explanation of why Donald Trump does not represent the conservative or Tea Party movements. He wasn't there when we needed him, and he helped those who were against us.

So why the swirling support around Trump?

Much of it, without doubt, is name recognition. But that cannot explain it completely.

As of now, Trump is the only one willing to meet Obama's smash-mouth attitude with smash-mouth attitude.

Obama can invite Paul Ryan to sit in the front row for Obama's budget speech, and then spend 45 minutes calling Ryan everything but a murderer, and Obama gets away with it because we have respect for the Office of the President even if we do not respect the President.

Obama got a pass on Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, and on just about everything else, as his minions trashed the Clintons, Geraldine Ferraro, and everyone who criticized Obama as racists.

The lesson of the recent sound of the Trump-et is not that we need Donald Trump, it's that we need to distinguish more clearly between the Office of the President and the President. ,p> And we need someone who is not afraid to tell it like it is about the most arrogant, demeaning and dismissive President of my adult life.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: antibirthers; badnews; levin; levinworksforobama; screamingyenta; trump
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To: mnehring
Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything.

We're seeing proof RIGHT NOW.

81 posted on 04/16/2011 10:53:03 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: mylife

Levin is a coward and a traitor. He knows the meaning of natural born Citizen.


82 posted on 04/16/2011 11:15:36 AM PDT by Godebert
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83 posted on 04/16/2011 11:20:46 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: rintense
You should explain why it's OK for a business woman who runs a rents by the hour boarders lodging to try to stick up the developer who's investing millions and millions into that immediate area?

When this business of FIXING Atlantic City started that "home" was probably worth $40,000, tops, and that was on a good day and presuming the owner would pick up the costs of demisement.

Atlantic City was a BLIGHTED AREA, no different than any other urban re-development situation.

As is all too typical in these cases the redevelopment authority finds reluctant property owners who want to cash in early by holding out for prices way beyond the normal market. That's who this old'gal is.

She offered her prime slum property, which would still be in a slum except for the casinos and other business that'd moved into that area, for a very high price ~ $1,000,000.

The developer saw that as a problem but went ahead and designed his operation around her business (rents by the hour lodging).

It failed ~ the developer went under. The redevelopment authority went looking for ANOTHER SUCKER, and he came in and discovered that there really had to be some additional planning, as well as an expansion of the active project or it would fail again.

In short, the original casino would not work. It was too small. A single property owner was holding out against what he needed for commercial viability. And this part of the NEW ATLANTIC CITY was being doomed by one property owner after a price 25X its worth.

The space for parking limousines was originally part of the initial plan as designed by the original developer.

When the redevelopment authority took over the site for resale they decided to use eminent domain to get rid of the problem.

She had friends elsewhere ~ people who had their own interests in keeping Atlantic City as the prime slum property it'd always been.

They paid for her lawsuit and in the end she won ~ the courts held that the redevelopment authority did not have eminent domain among their tools.

BTW, the original developer this old biddy's actions ran into the ground was BOB GUCCIONE. The plan for the limousine parking area was his. He actually covered the area on his own land with steel work which had to later be torn down. She filed numerous nuisance claims that people were dropping cement blocks through her roof, crowding out her sunlight, making noise, and so on. That's when BOB owned the project.

Trump offered her $250,000 for her trashboard and uncured lumber three story rents by the hour "is this the honeymoon" suites?

Again, it was still worth about $40,000 so Trump's organization offered her 6 times its value.

I'd like to note here for one last time YOUR argument is based primarily on what Bob Guccione was doing, not what Donald Trump was doing. Bob went bankrupt dealing with this woman as he went about improving America's second largest outdoor slum (Detroit, even then, being #1). The Donald didn't. But he didn't start the fight.

84 posted on 04/16/2011 11:52:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mnehring
Bob Guccione went bankrupt on this project ~ he owned it first ~ and mostly because this old gal wanted to sell her hunk of slum land for a million bucks (the value having gone up considerably since Bob decided to invest there).

Trump took over the project later ~ with the dispute still ongoing. He didn't come up with the idea of building a parking lot ~ rather, he came up with the idea of making the project LARGER so that it would be economically viable.

He offered her what was than a quite munificent price ~ $1/4 million. She wanted $1.0 million. It was worth about $40,000 tops at the time.

Some think she refused to sell ~ fact is she offered to sell.

85 posted on 04/16/2011 11:57:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Because it is her private property and individual rights trump collective rights. Period.


86 posted on 04/16/2011 11:58:14 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: muawiyah

So what, it is her private property. She can ask for what she wants. The collective good (to quote Marx who you seem to like) should never trump her individual rights.


87 posted on 04/16/2011 12:00:44 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
BS ~ in my neighborhood we have an association. It was there when we bought the property. Some guy wants to plan and build something outside the Planned Unit Development agreement he'll end up paying for our lawsuit to stop him.

We have few rules here. Nothing about paint, or siding, or plants, or whatever. But we do have rights to keep what we bought and YOU, as an individual, have no right to strip me of my rights just so you can have a 3 story house.

88 posted on 04/16/2011 12:02:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mnehring

She ruined Bob Gucionne.


89 posted on 04/16/2011 12:03:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lakeshark; holdonnow

Mark Levin has done great work, but I think he still has hope that the GOP can save the nation.

I don’t.


90 posted on 04/16/2011 12:04:45 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: mnehring
Here's a collective right : Right of the people to peaceably assemble. Right to enter into contracts. Right to worship.

You, as an individual, have no right to prohibit peaceful assembly, nor to violate contracts to which you are not a party, or to force me to worship your false gods.

91 posted on 04/16/2011 12:06:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Godebert

I think you may need your meds adjusted.
Levin may be the last man in the nation that understands the significance of the constitution.


92 posted on 04/16/2011 12:06:57 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Lakeshark

Trump is getting the Sarah Palin treatment from the Left. And the he’s no conservative treatment from the right.


93 posted on 04/16/2011 12:09:54 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: mylife
Mark is ALL ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION

Would that be the same Constitution which says you must be a natural born citizen to be president? Donald Trump aside, Levin hasn't supported those of us who want obama to prove his eligibility.

94 posted on 04/16/2011 12:11:34 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

Donald Trump may not be a conservative, but neither are my local Republicans. The chairman of our county GOP is supporting a UN Agenda 21 Gateway project because she thinks that it will provide jobs for truckers (her husband is a truck driver). Our state senator, that we just elevated to the state senate from the congress, supports funding SEIU state health care contracts that the court ruled did not have to be funded if there was a budget shortfall and he also supports switching teachers’ union insurance to the union self insurance that is more costly and puts the profits in the union coffers.

Then we have a newly elected state congress man who announced that he supports collective bargaining for government unions because he is a member of a government union.

I’m a precinct captain and I haven’t decided how I am going to handle all this. I am obligated to support these people? Should I quit? Can I work against them? I live in a precinct that voted 79% Republican in the last election.


95 posted on 04/16/2011 12:23:02 PM PDT by Eva
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To: jersey117

Donald Trump may not be a conservative, but neither are my local Republicans. The chairman of our county GOP is supporting a UN Agenda 21 Gateway project because she thinks that it will provide jobs for truckers (her husband is a truck driver). Our state senator, that we just elevated to the state senate from the congress, supports funding SEIU state health care contracts that the court ruled did not have to be funded if there was a budget shortfall and he also supports switching teachers’ union insurance to the union self insurance that is more costly and puts the profits in the union coffers.

Then we have a newly elected state congress man who announced that he supports collective bargaining for government unions because he is a member of a government union.

I’m a precinct captain and I haven’t decided how I am going to handle all this. I am obligated to support these people? Should I quit? Can I work against them? I live in a precinct that voted 79% Republican in the last election.


96 posted on 04/16/2011 12:23:12 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
There are people who post at FR who can't imagine that a government employee could be a Republican, nor that a union member might even be a conservative.

So, you have to deal with such folks.

You should get attacked any moment now.

97 posted on 04/16/2011 12:35:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Government employees can certainly be Republican, but if they support public sector union collective bargaining, they are not conservative. It’s an oxymoron because government sector union bargaining equals big government, big DEMOCRAT government because of the symbiotic relationship between the unions and the Democrat politicians.

It’s crazy for Republican politicians to support public sector unions because those unions will work to defeat a Republican, no matter what they say, unless the Republican is a powerful RINO.


98 posted on 04/16/2011 12:47:42 PM PDT by Eva
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To: mylife
"NOBODY is more conservative than Mark Levin. The constitution is in his veins.

Ask that coward to define 'natural born Citizen'. You'd never get past his lapdog call screener.

99 posted on 04/16/2011 3:49:13 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Lakeshark
What the heck is wrong with Mark Levin? If I didn’t know better I’d say he is peeved with Trump because he gave Rush a $100,000 contribution for his blood cancer campaign on Rush's radio show yesterday.

I listen to Mark frequently, and there are a few things I don’t like about him, his impatience with callers, his name calling, and his prevalent “I am genius and don’t you dare to disagree with me” attitude. The reason Rush is number one in the conservative radio business is because he is not only a smart man, but also a very nice and genuine man.

Trump is taking the fight directly to Obama like no one has ever done before. No GOPer, no conservative, no private citizen or politician has taken the fight to Obama with as much publicity as Trump.

So instead of criticizing Obama, Levin criticizes Trump. Why? Is it because Trump has proven to be effective? Is it because Trump's message can be heard in every corner of America? Trump is doing a favor for the conservative movement by relentlessly attacking Obama. He is unmasking Obama, and he has the money and resources to get the bottom of the citizenship issue, as well as other Obama mysteries and controversies that some conservatives have discussed for years.

Maybe Trump is a phony, but he is doing a hell of a job right now by putting Obama on the defensive and raising awareness about these issues, so why not use that to our benefit and expose Obama to a long overdue serious scrutiny and vetting.

Once he declares his intention to run for the GOP nomination, that’s another story. But in the meantime, why attack him so mercilessly when he is helping to expose Obama like no other conservative has been able to do?

100 posted on 04/16/2011 8:26:07 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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