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To: little jeremiah
Here is a Hawaiian newspaper article from 1959, which says that Barak Sr arrived in Hawaii in 1959 after deciding to study in Hawaii while in Kenya. U Hawaii confirms he began studying in fall 1959.

Where is your ironclad evidence corroborating your favored Hawaiian newspaper article? Ironclad evidence Barak Sr was anywhere in America before 1959? Ping me when you post it, okay?

988 posted on 04/23/2011 3:51:36 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz

Headline says he came to HI in 1959, yes indeed.

What are you so upset about?

I can read the headline, can’t read the rest of the article.

I don’t think anyone doubts that he came to HI in 1959.


993 posted on 04/23/2011 3:56:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Plummz

First of all, as you well know, Zero’s team has scrubbed, erased, taken off line, removed from libraries, substituted, etc etc etc everything they can that in any way disproves or casts doubt the myth-life portrayed in Dreams.

So therefore, iron-clad evidence is very hard to find - both evidence that supports the myth as well as evidence that disproves it - they’re both very difficult to find.

That’s why anything that can be found has to be taken into consideration and not rejected out of hand because it doesn’t fit into someone’s preconceived notions, whatever they may be. Leads get followed until they’re proven to be a dead end.

Didn’t you ever read any mystery stories?

If you start off with a belief, you will reject evidence that doesn’t agree with your already decided upon end-of-the-story.

That is not the way to find the truth.


994 posted on 04/23/2011 4:03:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Plummz; little jeremiah

thanks for posting that article Plummz, I have often seen quotes from it, but never the article entire. When I have time I will transcribe it, as it is hard to read.

The statement ‘One of them is Barack Obama, 25 year old business administration major from Kenya...’

...just doesn’t add up, he left the school at Maseno in 1953 at the age of 17 or 18 according to school records, at Maseno the students were ‘taught useful subjects which included tailoring and carpentry’

Hawaii would hardly have accepted a foreign student unless they were able to validate his ‘business administration major from Kenya’

So where did he obtain that qualification?

Yes, there are records of his arrival in Hawaii in 1959. But there’s nothing to be found on where he was PRIOR TO ARRIVAL IN HAWAII.


996 posted on 04/23/2011 4:16:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Plummz; little jeremiah
Now you might wonder what it is that makes me ask...ONE REASON is because when he was interviewed after graduation from Hawaii in June 1962, he says he had NOT BEEN BACK TO KENYA FOR SEVEN YEARS.

So, one needs to ask, WHERE WAS HE?


998 posted on 04/23/2011 4:49:13 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Plummz; little jeremiah; All

Now, before anyone wants to remind me that the Kenyan came to the US as part of the student airlift that landed at Idlewild airport in September 1959 (months AFTER the kenyan showed up in Hawaii btw) they need to read this:

Title: African American Students Foundation (Cora Weiss collection)
Description: The African American Students Foundation (AASF) was founded in 1959. In April 1959, prior to Kenyan independence, trade unionist Tom Mboya visited the U.S. at the invitation of the American Committee on Africa; Mboya talked on many college campuses and was given scholarships from many colleges. The AASF was set up to raise money and bring students from East Africa to the U.S. to use these scholarships. Although based in New York, AASF had a national focus. Baseball star Jackie Robinson and performers Harry Belafonte and Sidney Poitier led the initial fundraising. AASF raised an initial $39,000 and as a result organized the first of several “airlifts” of East African students, mostly from Kenya, to the U.S. in September 1959. In 1960 the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation gave $100,000 to AASF. As a result in 1960 three planes were chartered bringing 222 students from east and central Africa. The archive includes photographs. Cora Weiss was Executive Director and student adviser. Archive deposited by Cora Weiss.

Housed At: Michigan State University Library, Special Collections
Location: 100 Library, East Lansing, MI 48824, United States
Catalog/Finding Aid: view
Restrictions: The archive may not yet be processed. Contact in advance.
Phone: 517-353-8700
Related Website: http://www.lib.msu.edu/coll/main/spec_col/

http://africanactivist.msu.edu/organization.php?name=African+American+Students+Foundation

CONCLUSION: If you want to see the records, make an appointment with CORA WEISS, who has recently been forced to admit the kenyan was NOT connected to the airlift of students. And Tom Mboya had nothing to do with the kenyan’s arrival in the US...because in his own words, he left Kenya in 1955 WHEN MBOYA WAS STUDYING AT OXFORD.


1,002 posted on 04/23/2011 5:13:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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