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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; David; melancholy; dennisw; BillG; Natural Born 54

In VERY detailed article, the (nameless) researcher finds listings for the wedding of Barack, Sr and Stanley Ann. (The researcher also finds records of the Soetoro marriage)

So for all you doubters, the pair was legally married (except for the possibility of bigamy). Those of you who complain that they hardly new each other, never had sex together, or whatever crazy ideas you have about Anne, Anna or whatever, need to reconcile your hypotheses with the fact that they were clearly married.

For those of you who are searching for crazy swapped baby stories and the like, get a life! The married, had a child (in Mombasa) and that child stayed with Stanley Ann through her period in Seattle and Hawaii, and possibly through a trip to Boston. (Note: for all the questions about “Anna”, the Seattle address is a perfect match for the UW transcript, and there is no doubt that this transcript uniquely belonged to Stanley Ann, including her grades from UH.)

By now, Sherlock Holmes would be quite ashamed of your Anna fantasies and switched baby theories.

Source:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/21/results-of-investigation-made-possible-by-donors-to-the-post-email-legal-fund/


387 posted on 04/15/2011 10:17:19 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader
In VERY detailed article, the (nameless) researcher finds listings for the wedding of Barack, Sr and Stanley Ann.

nothing there at all about a wedding! SHAME ON YOU FOR SPREADING LIES!
391 posted on 04/15/2011 10:37:13 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks
I made two observations: that there is a person who appears in the index directly above Mr. Obama which was identified as “duplicate;” however, there was only one entry for this birth, not two, as it seemed to suggest in reference to the “duplicate” marker. There was also another anomaly that I observed about the 1960-1964 index in general that I am not going to disclose at this time.
392 posted on 04/15/2011 10:43:51 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fractal Trader

May I draw your attention to the headline of the article from which you quote:

WAS OBAMA GIVEN A CERTIFICATE NUMBER WHICH HAD BELONGED TO SOMEONE ELSE?
by Sharon Rondeau


397 posted on 04/15/2011 11:20:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fractal Trader

You know how many photos have circulated showing SAD, the grandparents, Barry, O Sr., etc. I’ve seen more photos of those people from their lives previous to BO becoming president than I’ve seen of any other president’s family - way more.

But in all those photos, there is one that is conspicuously missing: a wedding photo from the official union of SAD and BO Sr. I’m sure you could come up with at least a short list of reasons for its absence. However, does it make sense that there isn’t one? Ask every married couple you know if they have a wedding picture. I’ll bet you can’t find one couple that will say “No.”


399 posted on 04/15/2011 11:48:23 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Fractal Trader; LucyT; Fred Nerks
In VERY detailed article, the (nameless) researcher finds listings for the wedding of Barack, Sr and Stanley Ann. (The researcher also finds records of the Soetoro marriage)

So for all you doubters, the pair was legally married (except for the possibility of bigamy). Those of you who complain that they hardly new each other, never had sex together, or whatever crazy ideas you have about Anne, Anna or whatever, need to reconcile your hypotheses with the fact that they were clearly married.

For those of you who are searching for crazy swapped baby stories and the like, get a life! The married, had a child (in Mombasa) and that child stayed with Stanley Ann through her period in Seattle and Hawaii, and possibly through a trip to Boston. (Note: for all the questions about “Anna”, the Seattle address is a perfect match for the UW transcript, and there is no doubt that this transcript uniquely belonged to Stanley Ann, including her grades from UH.)

By now, Sherlock Holmes would be quite ashamed of your Anna fantasies and switched baby theories.

You probably ought to get a little more control over the tone of your posts.

I think we have consistently been pretty careful to acknowledge the possibility that the real story may in fact me the one you have lifted from the published legend in Dreams. If the legal process ultimately produces a current authenticated print from Zero's foot and a print expert can identify that print to the print on the Mombasa birth certificate showing Stanley Ann as mother and Obama Sr. as father, that will confirm your view.

As we have said, there are a number of reasons to suspect that print will not match.

As to your direct point about using the index to confirm the basic story line of the Legend (Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. met in class; married; went to Kenya and had a child; all to the exclusion of the possibility of a second woman and child in Hawaii being the source of some parts of the legend) Fred's comment in #383 addresses the substance of at least one defect--which is the same defect identified by your unnamed researcher as an anomaly.

The date range has been removed from the Birth Index volume print. As Fred points out: ...The images above are offered as proof that the Birth Index volume is in fact quite different in an important way. It is the only one that lacks the date range. It seems improbable that this would be innocently “overlooked” only in this one book. To suggest so is ridiculous. That is why I published images from the other “types” of books that were printed at the same time the 1960-1964 Birth Index was printed, to show absolutely that the obama Index is the only book lacking the one common, expected, usual official information. The date range.

The suggested explanation is that an accurate depiction of the date range would demonstrate that the Obama child referenced was born earlier than August of 1961--enough earlier that he would had to have been conceived while Stanley Ann was still a student at Mercer Island High School.

That thesis of course is the basis for the suggestion that there was a second Ann Obama in Hawaii with a multi-racial child who was not a child of Stanley Ann and who at least does not fit the story in the Dreams Legend, modified to fit the Kenya birth.

I have never given much credit to any of the purported birth explanations and documents originating with the Hawaii Department of Public Records for the reason that the statutes provide for birth confirmation documents that are not controlled by an effective legal process. The end product is a number of examples in the earlier threads here of individuals who have Hawaii COLB's certifying birth in Hawaii who were not born in Hawaii at all.

I note also that the public releases from officials at the department are carefully crafted around the possible state of facts that the department in fact has never issued any form of certificate with respect to Obama's birth because although they have a complete valid file on the subject, the file discloses on the face of the originating document that he was born, not in Hawaii, but in Mombasa.

And whoever he is, and wherever he came from, he has personally created by his own statements to which there are a number of affidavits in court files, an evidentiary record of statements against interest confirming that he was in fact born in Kenya. That topic is going to need to be addressed separately from the issue at hand here.

The primary point of this thread is the proposition that the record of the current occupant of the White House who is acting as President of the United States is a fake. There are a number of issues about his underlying record that are created by factual inconsistencies with his personal description in Dreams and he and his supporters not only refuse to address those inconsistencies, they have in many cases produced fake documents to refute the inconsistencies.

So the open question is who he is and where he came from. A collateral question is whether or not he is eligible to hold the office of President under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution.

410 posted on 04/16/2011 10:24:57 AM PDT by David (...)
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