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To: Fred Nerks

My reason for asking when he found the bc was to try to determine if he had seen it by the time he ran into Race Bannon in Hawaii. He told Race that he was born in Mombasa. If that pre-dates finding the certificate, it means that’s what he was told. If it was after finding the certificate, we could infer that’s what the certificate contained. If we had the date, we could maybe also see how it effected Zero’s statements to others and his actions - even his relationship to the Dunhams if they had told him one thing and the cert. told him something different.

Interestingly, for those who believe he was born in Kenya, if the find was pre-Race, this would provide validation. For those of us who believe he was born elsewhere, it would present a problem.

I’m still not 100% convinced that the story of finding the bc is true but your response about the article makes it more likely that it is.


301 posted on 04/14/2011 10:40:13 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Natural Born 54

I know that others will chime in with accuracy as far as the book’s account of when he found the birth certificate, but until they pipe up, my recollection just from reading threads here on FR is that he found the b.c. sometime in high school or maybe even earlier. When Race saw him, he must have been graduated already.

I think when Race saw him, he had seen the b.c., if the story in the books is true.

If I’m wrong, someone let me know!


302 posted on 04/14/2011 10:50:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Natural Born 54; LucyT
DREAMS FROM MY FATHER

excerpt:

"In an article published in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin upon his graduation, he appears guarded and responsible, the model student, ambassador for his continent. He mildly scolds the university for herding visiting students into dormitories and forcing them to attend programs designed to promote cultural understanding-a distraction, he says, from the practical training he seeks. Although he hasn’t experienced any problems himself, he detects self-segregation and overt discrimination taking place between the various ethnic groups and expresses wry amusement at the fact that “Caucasians” in Hawaii are occasionally at the receiving end of prejudice. But if his assessment is relatively clear-eyed, he is careful to end on a happy note: One thing other nations can learn from Hawaii, he says, is the willingness of races to work together toward common development, something he has found whites elsewhere too often unwilling to do.

I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents...

SEE SECOND LAST PARAGRAPH - THE KENYAN IS QUOTED AS SAYING HE HAD NOT BEEN BACK TO KENYA FOR SEVEN YEARS.

free pdf download links: GOOGLE -

310 posted on 04/14/2011 2:12:43 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Natural Born 54
...Interestingly, for those who believe he was born in Kenya, if the find was pre-Race, this would provide validation. For those of us who believe he was born elsewhere, it would present a problem...

Not really...he may have found a birth certificate for the child whose name is on the UNDATED Index of births in Hawaii.

There's no EASY way to explain this - one has to follow what this blogger tells us they found:

LINK

The images above are offered as proof that the Birth Index volume is in fact quite different in an important way. It is the only one that lacks the date range. It seems improbable that this would be innocently “overlooked” only in this one book. To suggest so is ridiculous. That is why I published images from the other “types” of books that were printed at the same time the 1960-1964 Birth Index was printed, to show absolutely that the obama Index is the only book lacking the one common, expected, usual official information. The date range.

312 posted on 04/14/2011 2:29:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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