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“Bottom line is that I am not convinced it is beyond doubt that there was more than one woman with a multi racial child in this act; I am not convinced the same woman was at the U and on Capitol Hill throughout the entire relevant period. I do not view it as proven from an evidentiary standpoint, that the woman attending the U throughout the 1961 academic year was in fact Stanley Ann Dunham. Might have been; further evidence may well confirm who was where and what they did; but until you can see the real evidence, you may not be able to figure it out.”

If there was a hearing on the merits the transcript evidence could be produced and I expect you would stipulate that if it were authenticated in court then it would prove SADO was a student at U. WA.

In contrast, there is no such evidence shown yet even claimed to prove a different Anna Obama was in WA in Jan 1961. The memories of Toutonghi, which she said she was struggling with even in the newspaper story, would not likely survive cross-examination.

“...The memories of Toutonghi, which she said she was struggling with even in the newspaper story, would not likely survive cross-examination.”

Correction. It wasn’t a ‘newspaper story’ it came from Charlette LeFevre, she of:

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If there was a hearing on the merits the transcript evidence could be produced and I expect you would stipulate that if it were authenticated in court then it would prove SADO was a student at U. WA.

I do not know that you would.

Fred would want to argue that there is no evidence in the record that the person who was admitted as Stanley Ann was in fact Stanley Ann Dunham.

I think it is pretty likely that the student was in fact Stanley Ann but there are enough loose ends out there to make you wonder.

Use of the address on the student record makes you think there was a connection between the student in attendance and the record.

But on the other hand, Mary's statements make you think that whether or not there was a child present, Anna was in the apartment in early 1961. That provides some separation with Stanley Ann.

So does the possible issue with the data date for the Polk Directory.

If you deposed Mary and she didn't stand up; or if you could establish that the actual data date was late 61 early 62, you would have trouble with an argument that they were not the same person.

And I don't know what records the U is likely to have left with respect to identification of the admitted extension school student. If, as I suspect, the answer is none, the transcript is pretty good evidence. I have seen lots of copies of 1961 transcripts--the original one here looks like all the rest.