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This is why the words “natural born” were removed in 1795 from the Nationality Act. With feudal law still prominent around the globe, the US Govt could not guarantee that foreign nations would not lay claim to a child born to US citizen parents on feudal soil in a time of war. They had to revert back to the law of nations, exclusive allegiance & treaties with foreign nations to avoid at all costs the threat of foreign influence in the White House. Read the Treaty of Paris & the 1870 Treaty between the US & the Brits as well as the Treaty with Saxony (part of English-Germany, yes at its founding, England & Germany were one nation under one sovereign king). The treaty with the Brits says one thing(feudal law-jus soli), the treaty with German Saxony says another(natural law-”jus sanguinis”). I am ready to testify before Congress on this subject. My research is complete. Children born on US soil “may be” citizens by treaty, but they do not officially become US citizens unless & until that choice is made and their foreign citizenship is renounced. Their parents having no right of citizenship can not legally speak for them in this area of the law. This is the law of nations from time immemorial. This is also the time immemorial natural law of consent which a child does not personally hold until they come of legal age. Until then, they are under the jurisdiction of their parents and the jurisdiction of the parents citizenship. That political jurisdiction of the parents is what governs the childrens nationality at birth and through their youth.

Supreme Court Justice James Wilson, 1791, The Works of James Wilson, Vol II on sovereign citizens:

You will be pleased to hear, that, with regard to this as well as to many other subjects, we have renewed, in our governments, the principles and the practice of the ancient Saxons. Between dignity and duty, no separation was made by them. In the early period of the Anglo-Saxon state, the allodial proprietors were numerous; their estates were generally small; and all were understood to be of the same rank and condition. Some, indeed, were distinguished above others by their character and their talents; but the superiority derived from this source was accompanied with no legal pre-eminence or power.

1 posted on 04/10/2011 1:00:05 PM PDT by patlin
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"George’s parents never changed their citizenship."

Unlikely. Milt Romney helps Obama on this matter,
suggesting Romney is ineligible.

2 posted on 04/10/2011 1:05:04 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people''s money." M Thatcher)
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“Therefore the fundamental rule for NBC is “exclusive allegiance to the United States” at birth.”

Not always.

“Take for example, George Romney who was born in Mexico because his refuge parents, who were mormons, were being persecuted in the US. George’s parents never changed their citizenship.”

George Romney was born in Mexico and was thus considered by Mexico to be a citizen of Mexico. Not only would George Romney be a considered a Mexican citizen, but his children would also be considered children of Mexico.

Therefore, Mexico would consider Mitt Romney to also be a citizen of Mexico.

Can another nation claim Mitt Romney to be a citizen.

Yes.

Is Mitt Romney a natural born US citizen,

Yes.


5 posted on 04/10/2011 1:26:29 PM PDT by trumandogz
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“George Romney who was born in Mexico because his refuge parents, who were mormons, were being persecuted in the US.”

His parents were hardly being persecuted by the US Government. Instead, the Remney family left the US due to the US laws against polygamy.

Fleeing the US due to polygamy laws is akin to fleeing the US due to our laws against child molestation.

Neither action would provide one with the status of being a refuge.


8 posted on 04/10/2011 1:31:33 PM PDT by trumandogz
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Thank you for the great work you’re doing! You will no doubt bring out the usual (and unusual) suspects.


30 posted on 04/10/2011 2:38:35 PM PDT by GBA (Those who die with the most liberty...Win! Ever Vigilance: For the children.)
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I really like your analysis and cites. America is not so much a representative republic, it is a hierarchical representative republic.

The original voting in most states was set up to make family households the smallest unit of representation, each family voting through the male head of household.

The States were represented, as States, in Congress by Senators, and in electing Presidents by the Federal Electors.

For many years Countries, as Counties, were represented in one house of the State Legislature.

The hierarchy is of utmost importance, for it keeps vital a respect for and compliance with the duties of being a representative of a body.

The direct election of Senators (17th Amendment, 1912) destroyed the representation of States as States in the Federal hierarchy. Allowing the voting franchise for women (19th Amendment, 1920) ended completely the representation of Family Households, as Family Households, throughout the nation. It should be noted that the example of the widow Lydia Taft of Uxbridge Massachusetts in 1756 being granted the household voting franchise because she was a widow should have served as the example to follow. Moses and G-d worked this whole thing out with the five daughters of Zelophehad some 30 centuries ago.

The One-Man-One-Vote rulings of the US Supreme Court in the progressive Warren Court of the 1960’s removed the representation of counties as counties in the State Houses, and to a lesser extent in the US House.

Today, with the hierarchies flattened and perverted, we have rule of the mob, and of those demagogues and propagandists who inflame and herd the mob as a mob.


55 posted on 04/10/2011 4:06:53 PM PDT by bvw
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Where did you get the information you base your argument on? From what I have read, the Mexican government considers all children born on Mexican territory to be citizens regardless of their parents’ nationality.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_nationality_law#Nationality_by_birth


82 posted on 07/27/2012 9:24:36 AM PDT by BlackSunshine84
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