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To: PieterCasparzen

Regarding my prior post:

It appears that there has been no ruling overturning or affecting Minor v. Happersett as an opinion, though the 19th Amendment granted suffrage to women, which was the subject of the case. So the precedent apparently would be that of this case ?

Also, if this indeed is the rub, then it would appear that the man who wound up winning the election of 2008 had simply gained too much traction before it was discovered within the Democratic party that he was ineligible. That would explain the extraordinary facts surrounding how the Democratic party certified him in the various States and the last-minute secret wrangling of Democratic party leadership, i.e., Pelosi & co. in final certification. I had come across these claims on the internet but I always took them with a grain of salt and simply “filed them away”. I guess until now. Now this makes sense. It was a while until it was pointed out to leadership that there was an issue. Then it took a while to research and figure out what approach was to be taken.

Regarding Chester Arthur, I think nobama’s father’s non-citizenship was known fairly early on. Perhaps the Chester Arthur handling would or could be applied. I also submit that since nobama was sworn in, and is holding the office, any actions while in office are those of a sitting President. However, the whole idea of people knowing he was ineligible would and should result in many criminal prosecutions, including that of nobama if he knew before he was elected. No doubt if he stepped down he would pardon himself beforehand - is that possible ? I don’t know, but Pelosi and any others who knew - they seem like the really need pardons or they will be wide open to prosecution.

Mostly, if this came out, it would reflect terribly on the Democratic party for not vetting. Finding out after it’s too late and trying to avoid some “Constitutional crisis” is one thing, but knowing before the election and not going public - which would have, of course, ensured a clintonista win - that would look very bad.

IMHO.


72 posted on 04/08/2011 3:19:40 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: PieterCasparzen
-- Mostly, if this came out, it would reflect terribly on the Democratic party for not vetting. --

It reflects poorly on all of Congress and all of the substantial press and "public education" organs.

The Senate went out of its way to issue a non-binding finding that McCain was a natural born citizen, by dint of being born of citizen parents who were out of the country on the country's military business. The Senate did not undertake to issue a non-binding resolution that dual citizens born on US soil, raised by foreigners, raised during some formative years in a foreign land, are likewise "Natural Born Citizens" under the meaning of the Constitution.

My "gut" tells me that the "best" signal of US patriotism that Obama could produce would be naturalization, whereby he renounces all other allegiances - but if he has to renounce those, then his birthright citizenship runs afoul of the "American, pure American, and only American, from birth until the present."

84 posted on 04/08/2011 7:03:33 AM PDT by Cboldt
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