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To: Larry - Moe and Curly

“You are not a natural born citizen. You are subject to two jurisdictions.”

How about my children. They were born in the USA to two US citizen parents and they are also citizens of the country in S. America where I was born.

Their children as well as their great-great-great grandchildren will also be considered citizens of that nation.

Is it your view that none of my decedents will be natural born citizens as another nation can claim them to be citizens?


107 posted on 04/08/2011 1:05:43 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Your children ARE natural born children. The United States is NOT bound by the laws of other nations. We are bound by our own laws.

From my reading, the only thing truly necessary for “Natural Born Citizen” status, is to be born to two American Citizens. Loyalty is not given to dirt, it is given to Lawful Authority. Authority is not restricted to location. An American Citizen posses his rights and responsibility to his government regardless WHERE he is, and by the Same token the government reciprocates.

It is completely unreasonable to believe that any government would not recognize the loyalty and rights of citizens which may be serving it’s interests abroad.

The obsession with dirt is just stupid. It was a carryover from the English Law that made anyone born on English soil into a Subject of the Crown. The Crown used any excuse whatsoever to claim a Subject, so being born on the Dirt qualified, as well as being born to an English Father anywhere in the World.

Since a Subject was basically a servant, why should they not want as wide a net as possible?

By the way, the founders explicitly REJECTED Much of English Common Law. (I have quotes.)


112 posted on 04/08/2011 1:37:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: trumandogz

“Is it your view that none of my decedents will be natural born citizens as another nation can claim them to be citizens?”

That is a good question. I’m not sure I have the answer to that one. It would appear that your children, born in the US of citizen parents would be considered natural born Citizens and eligible to be President of the United States. Since I don’t know the country you were born in, or their citizenship laws, I don’t know how they can claim your kids as their citizens.

While there was a birth certificate issued by your birth country for you (which your parents took to the local US Consulate or Embassy where they registered you as a US citizen and obtained a passport for you), your children have no such foreign birth certificate.

If you were born on a military base in a foreign country, there would be no foreign birth certificate.

I lived and worked overseas for 16 years with a lot of US Expats. Been through the registration process a number of times with them.

It would be best if the Supreme Court got the Obama case and defined the term “natural born Citizen”, and put an end to this discussion once and for all.


114 posted on 04/08/2011 1:57:58 PM PDT by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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