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Libya: The Genesis of a Bad Idea
Pajamas Media ^ | March 30, 2011 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/31/2011 3:58:37 PM PDT by Kaslin

The president spoke Monday night to clarify our intervention in Libya. Instead he made things worse, and could not explain the mission (are we/are we not after Qaddafi?), the methodology to achieve it (are we in a no-fly-zone or are we bombing ground targets essential to save the rebels?), and the desired outcome (who are the “rebels,” what do we wish from them, and are they better than Qaddafi?). Indeed, after almost two weeks, these questions still have not been asked much less answered.

So the omissions pose the question: how did Obama, the archetype war critic, find himself bombing—in optional and preemptive fashion, and without congressional authority — an Arab Muslim oil-exporting country, and one that posed no immediate threat to American national security, despite being governed by a monster who, nevertheless, had been recently courted by Western intellectuals, academics, universities, and diplomats?

Unfortunately, Obama has no principled or strategically logical foreign policy. So it is mostly loud declarations that he is not George Bush and making things up ad hoc as he goes along. Here, I think, is what happened with Libya.

Nearly the entire Middle East (save the bugaboo democracies in Iraq and Israel) erupts three months ago against a potpourri of oligarchy, theocracy, dictatorship, monarchy, and military juntas — the common thread being anger against corrupt, kleptocratic dynasties that have ruined the economies of what should be otherwise rich countries and denied basic freedoms.

Obama is confused and has no typology of these uprisings, except a crude binary. On the one hand, some of the demonstrations are against pro-American strongmen and thus can be channeled into “the hope and change,” “we are the change we’ve been waiting for” left rhetoric. He thus piggy-backed (albeit belatedly as is his “vote-present” style) onto Tunisia and Egypt. We endorsed the reformers only when we knew they were going to win and they seemed to reflect liberal “change” against Cold War-like, American client SOBs.

Some others rebellions, however, were clearly aimed at anti-American pseudo-revolutionary regimes and so they have prompted a very different response from Obama. In the case of Iran, he apologized for 1953 and promised not to “meddle”; initially with Qaddafi he was silent. And he still practices “outreach” with the Syrian “reformer” Assad.

We should, then, have expected Obama to stay out of Libya, the way he has Iran and Syria, and concentrated largely in expressing support for rebellions against pro-American juntas — albeit only once he was assured they might win. But a perfect storm of events sucked him instead into Libya in a way he never imagined:

1) The Europeans (mostly the British and French) suddenly wanted to intervene in Libya, in a manner they had not amid protests elsewhere. Why? Oil, for one reason. Europe imports 10% of their oil and gas from Libya at very little transportation cost, and so it was deemed wise to be on the right side of the most likely government to be. Proximity, of course. Libya is a Mediterranean country with a tiny population of 6.5 million, as easy to operate militarily against, as Afghanistan and Iraq are difficult — and one that by such proximity might in extremis pose problems for Europe. More importantly, the “rebels” seemed like they would capture Tripoli within just a few days. So the French and British sensed an opportunity to accomplish a number of things at very little cost by declaring an intent to intervene militarily: they could ensure continued oil contracts with the likely winners under the guise of humanitarian anguish; they could avoid a drawn-out war by nudging the rebels over the top; and they could put the U.S. in an untenable position. By declaring their humanitarian fides and getting ahead of America in public concern over “genocide,” the Europeans would force the U.S. hand: if Obama did not act, he would look weak and de facto cede traditional American moral leadership to an ascendant Europe; if Obama did, he would do so in response to European initiatives, and end up with the worst of both worlds: shamed into providing 90% of the muscle while ceding the credit of a “sure” win to Sarkozy and Cameron. Europe, then, read Obama perfectly.

2) The “rebels.” No one in either the U.S. or Europe had much idea who or what the “rebels” were. But they assumed that because similar protestors had won easily in Egypt and Tunisia, and had appealed to the “Facebook” and “Twitter” crowd, these rebels likewise were surely ascendant Westernized Banisadr-like socialists. If Obama had been tardy in expressing support for protestors in Egypt and Tunisia, he was now feeling the heat a third time in Libya — especially as Qaddafi turned his guns against those who spoke impassioned English on CNN and the BBC.

Even though Qaddafi was a “revolutionary” anti-American figure, and even though his family and minions were intertwined with Western universities and intellectuals, Obama was worried about yet a third time being a day late and a dollar short, especially amid televised violence. Because he neither understood the rag-tag nature of the rebels (and either did not grasp or did not wish to grasp the jihadist elements among them), nor appreciated that tyrants like Qaddafi, quite unlike Mubarak and a Bin Ali, without compunction kill and “like it,” Obama had no idea that, in fact, the rebels could fizzle, and may, in fact, not be just Westernized intellectuals who want to turn Libya into Dubai.

3) The Three Graces. Then there were Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, and Samantha Powers who saw Libya as a postmodern goldmine. Think of it: an apparent cakewalk victory; restoring Obama credibility after the opportunistic and late endorsements in Egypt and Tunisia; a way to show that liberal interventions are tough, compassionate, and competent; subordination to the United Nations, the Arab League, and Europe; outsourcing of congressional approval to international prerogatives; using the military not for U.S. interests but for “humanitarian concerns” to stop “genocide.” And on and on.

So they bullied an otherwise distracted Obama (NCAA playoffs, golf, a Rio jaunt) into a sure-thing, “landmark” intervention on the cheap. Note very well: Key here was an important fact that the saner heads who knew something about strategy and the use of military force (e.g., Richard Holbrooke and James Jones) were either dead or gone. Robert Gates tried to warn Obama, but was overwhelmed.

Sum it all up: Obama thought that in a matter of days liberal Facebookers would storm Tripoli. He would get credit this time for being “there for them.” U.S. military intervention would be radically redefined as both competent and quick, in concert with the Europeans and subordinate to the international community. For Obama, the unBush, all that, amid sinking polls again, was too good to pass up (but also too hard to expend much energy on), so he voted more sorta yes than just present.

No one in this giddy “get it done before Tripoli falls” mood asked simple questions: How does our entry reflect long-term U.S. interests? Why Libya and not, say, a Syria? Why Libya and not, say, a Congo or Ivory Coast? How can the anti-war base now explain their decade-long opposition to just such preemptive attacks against Middle East Muslim countries (i.e., Bush went to Congress, and now Obama does not?)? Was Qaddafi the father of the Westernized poster boy Saif, or now back to the “mad dog of the Middle East”? Can the rebels really fight and who are they? Would a no-fly zone really do much good against Qaddafi’s ground assets? Did the UN and Arab League really mean just a no-fly zone and nothing much more? How long does Congress keep quiet? What happens if there is stalemate (e.g., how do we avoid a Mogadishu, or a long no-fly zone like over Iraq or a long bombing campaign like the Balkans?)? How to finesse the PR of concurrent obligations in Afghanistan and Iraq and a $1.6 trillion deficit?

I could go on ad nauseam, but you get the picture.

And now? There is only one way out: Obama must get Qaddafi pronto, by attacks on his ground assets, with Western special forces and intelligence services coordinating on the ground with the rebels (laptop GPS directions to our pilots, supplying arms, etc.). Then watch the laureate Obama hope and change away the resulting hypocrisies of embracing what he promised not to do—and outsource the messy occupation to the oil-hungry French and Britain, and the UN.

I think that is what we, in fact, will see — a messy end to a messy beginning.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: kineticcf; libya; vdh

1 posted on 03/31/2011 3:58:43 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I get the impression that VDH thinks this is new. This is a long drawn out global conspiracy over 3 yrs old already. Some components are way older, the MB, and were just waiting for the arrival of the muslim in the White House. All the other groups will be thrown under the bus once the caliph in chief has it consolidated.


2 posted on 03/31/2011 4:07:53 PM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: Kaslin

Devastating ... simply devastating.

The Ditherer-in-Chief (”DIC” for short) MUST be turned out of office in 2012.


3 posted on 03/31/2011 4:16:31 PM PDT by Walrus (My congressman got booted this year --- how about yours?)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

4 posted on 03/31/2011 4:20:35 PM PDT by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . The $3.59/gal. gasoline is too damned high! . . .)
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To: devolve; All

Nice post devolve. Looks good.
I have a gazillion pings and not up to going through them.

“To The shores of Tripoli” Remember when I wrote that to you in a post a week or so ago? “From the halls of Montezuma..”


5 posted on 03/31/2011 5:04:20 PM PDT by potlatch ( ~*coincidences usually aren't *~)
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To: potlatch

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Thanks potlatch

Yup

It took me a while to put the Marine Hymn and that .gif and Libya together

I’m slow and dense this week

Take it easy - I just rotated 3-4 .gifs on threads today -

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6 posted on 03/31/2011 5:15:33 PM PDT by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . The $3.59/gal. gasoline is too damned high! . . .)
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To: Kaslin
Good piece. Sounds entirely plausible. I don't think they'll get Qaddafi, however. He's crazy, not stupid. I imagine he has people beating the bushes at the moment looking for the CIA that the American media has announced are present. They only found Saddam Hussein after U.S. forces had overrun the country for some time, and even then, it wasn't easy. Barry's going to be busy changing the subject for the next month or so as the debacle shrinks in the rearview mirror.
7 posted on 03/31/2011 5:23:03 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: devolve

I watched Trump on O’Reilly. Lol, he sounds pretty good!
Keep posting and enjoy devolve.


8 posted on 03/31/2011 5:27:41 PM PDT by potlatch ( ~*coincidences usually aren't *~)
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To: Kaslin

Samantha Power should be dragged to the International court for instigating crime against peace, like her Nazi predecessors in Nuremberg.


9 posted on 03/31/2011 5:42:27 PM PDT by DTA (CENTCOM vs. AFRICOM)
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To: Kaslin
>>>>>>>>>I think that is what we, in fact, will see — a messy end to a messy beginning.<<<<<<<<

Most likely. Mogadishu revisited on the streets of Tripoli. The way out from this Kinetic CF is to impeach Obummer, charge Hitlery, Samantha Power and George Soros for treason and make a deal with Daffy. He keeps quiet and remains in power, U.S. declares victory ang grabs Wheelus base. France and AQ got each other, but this time on French soil.

10 posted on 03/31/2011 5:53:39 PM PDT by DTA (CENTCOM vs. AFRICOM)
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To: potlatch

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Yup

Trump shuts O’Reilly up and speaks his mind

He is not thrilled with the US exporting industries and US jobs either

He spoke up about the WTC/911 mosque too - no shrinking violet that is afraid of CAIR or the crazy pro-Muzzie lefties

The media’s critism is not shutting him up either

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11 posted on 03/31/2011 5:54:02 PM PDT by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . The $3.59/gal. gasoline is too damned high! . . .)
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To: devolve

It’s no secret what the actual motivations are, it’s very evident. True points.

it’s written on this blog as well:
http://comradebrihx.blogspot.com/2011/03/foreign-intervention.html


12 posted on 04/01/2011 4:38:09 PM PDT by brihx
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