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To: zzeeman
Our only recourse now is preparation.

There is still time but conservatives **must** act NOW!

We must work mightily to close down our socialist-funded, godless, and collectivist managed government schools. We **must** work to get our nation's children into **private** conservative schools that will fully integrate into every minute of the school day the child's specific Judeo Christian belief and our nation's founding principles.

I submit that the battle began decades ago....

It started in the 19th century when the first modern government schools opened. Modern government schooling was a progressive dream from the beginning. Progressives have always controlled curriculum development and teacher training. John Dewey and his Fabian ilk and all that followed were inevitable.

Of course children will become comfortable with taking money from their neighbor, collectivism, government compulsion, and voting mobs if they attend schools that **are** socialist funded, compulsory, prison-like, and managed by collectivist voting mobs ( school boards).

Woodrow Wilson, the IRS, the federal reserve, direct election of senators, usurpation of large swaths of state land for federal parks, feminism, unions, and FDR's New Deal was inevitable! By then 1 to 3 generations of voters had been indoctrinated in progressivism in their socialist government schools.

I am appalled at how few conservatives fail to realize that political reform will NOT NOT NOT resolve the issue unless we raise up righteous children. That will never happen in socialist schools that began with a generic and lukewarm Protestantism and quickly degenerated into pure godlessness.

by the way,...We know what Christ does with the lukewarm. He spits them out of His mouth.

I am also appalled that there are conservatives that think socialist funded, compulsory, and voter mob regulated schools can be reformed. Unbelievable!

One more thing.....The first government schools were the first socialist program that weakened fatherhood. 19th century socialist schooling removed from fathers their responsibility to educate and train up their children.

54 posted on 03/25/2011 6:06:17 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
I have absolutely no argument with your points on public education. However I don't share your optimism that this level of reform (i.e., the abolishment of the current system) will ever occur within the current environment. And even if it were to be accomplished immediately, it would not repair the damage done for generations that results in the current state of the body politic. What I do think will be important going forward, is that the knowledge of this particular form of evil must be preserved for the next generation(s) going forward that will hopefully survive this conflagration and be active in establishing the next Constitutional Republic.

The roots of this problem can be traced prior to Dewey:

"In 1852 when the state of Massachusetts pioneered the first program of public education in America, it decided to borrow as its model the Prussian educational system, the then reigning paradigm of educational discipline and efficiency. The designers of the Prussian system did not share Condorcet's concern with teaching children to think for themselves. The German philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, an enthusiastic supporter of the Jacobins during the French Revolution, had been one of the spiritual architects of the Prussian system. Fichte summed up his philosophy of public education by saying: 'If you want to influence [the pupil] at all, you must do more than merely talk to him; you must fashion him, and fashion him in such a way that he simply cannot will otherwise than what you wish him to will. ... The new education must produce this stable and unhesitating will according to a sure and infallible rule.' This method of teaching no doubt produces the kind of orderly discipline necessary for mass education to work at all, and yet it is also the doctrine of education embraced by all subsequent forms of totalitarian government and eerily prophetic of George Orwell's Newspeak."
-- Lee Harris, The Next American Civil War, The Populist Revolt against the Liberal Elite

55 posted on 03/25/2011 8:30:05 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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