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Another Look at Obama’s Social Security Number
Cashill.com ^ | 3-17-11 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE

While out promoting my new book, “Deconstructing Obama,” I have been asked a few times about Obama’s mysterious Social Security number.

Not knowing enough to speak authoritatively, I chose to swim upstream through the data flood and head for the source.

Here I found a no-nonsense licensed investigator from Ohio named Susan Daniels. Widowed at 30 with seven children, Daniels went back to school and eventually emerged as a certified paralegal.

After several years working for others, Daniels got her own license as an investigator in 1995. Since then, she has specialized in litigation support for law firms. Her particular strength has been in researching assets.

By her own admission, Daniels is “good with public records.” She knows her way around databases and has access to many that the public does not.

“I did not like the way things were going,” Daniels says of the country’s drift circa 2009. And so in the best spirit of citizen journalism, she began to investigate Obama on her own.

What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Plain: Barack Obama had been using a social security number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life.

This will not come as news to the readers of WorldNetDaily, whose thorough investigation climaxed last June when WND’s veteran White House correspondent Les Kinsolving confronted Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs on the subject.

Predictably, Gibbs laughed Kinsolving off and switched the subject to the birth certificate. Kinsolving had seen this kind of laugh and switch before. In 1982, for instance, he introduced the subject of AIDS to then press secretary Larry Speakes.

“Over a third of [the victims] have died,” said Kinsolving. “It’s known as ‘gay plague.’”

“I don’t have it. Do you?” joked Speakes to a general round of laughter. But unlike Gibbs, Speakes simply did not know any better.

As much as Daniels appreciates the work of WND and other serious investigators who have helped clarify the picture, she is distressed by the few who have clouded it.

“There have been many playing junior investigator from the start,” she jokes. “I don't know if they even have their decoder rings yet.”

This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world’s best-known social security number--042-68-4425.

“All I can say,” says Daniels of 042-68-4425, “is that it’s phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his selective service document in 1980.”

Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama’s, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age nineteen which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn sixteen in August of that year. Woods lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Connecticut, the state from which all “042s” applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

True to form, the left-leaning media set out to undermine the Social Security controversy and ridicule the investigators. Revealing, however, is the weakness of the response.

“Numbers are assigned based on the return address on the request envelope, not residency,” crowed Jason Linkins in the Huffington Post as though he had said something meaningful. Linkins suggested two possible explanations, both preposterous.

One is that Obama applied for his SSN as a little boy in Indonesia for no known reason, and the application just happened to be processed in Connecticut for no known reason either.

For the second, Jinkins cited the argument of Carole Glibert, in the Yahoo-related “Associated Content.” Said Gilbert, presumably with a straight face, “In fact, Barack Obama's dad attended college in Connecticut and in 1977, Obama was college aged; is it beyond reason to consider that he might have checked out his father's alma mater?”

Last time I checked, Harvard was in Massachusetts. The closest town to Harvard in Connecticut is about 90 minutes away, and there is no record that Obama Sr. lived there, let alone that Obama visited his imaginary alma mater and just happened to apply for a Social Security card while visiting.

Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.”

This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate.

“They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”

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To: DustyMoment
How does your theory explain why no less than 9 SSNs have been connected to Obama,

My theory is not about multiple social security numbers associated with his name. It's solely about why his SSN begins with 042.

But, now that we are on the subject of the 9 SSN's, what does your theory say about that?

61 posted on 03/22/2011 3:41:14 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: deport
In todays enviornment you need to get a social security number for a new born in order to claim that child on your income tax as a dependent......

Yes, that's true in TODAY's environment. However, Obama wasn't born and did not grow up in TODAY'S environment.

62 posted on 03/22/2011 3:43:09 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Mr.Unique

Agree in that I don’t know of any requirements for school and a SS#, but things may have changed now since schools get funding from the Feds and maybe they have to document the funding request with verified SS#s. It’s been too many years since I’ve had a child start school.


63 posted on 03/22/2011 3:44:21 PM PDT by deport
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To: wintertime
Isn't interesting to have so many Barack Obamas living in such close proximity to our future White House resident.

New York, Chicago, and LA all have large immigrant populations, many of whom hail from East Africa or the Middle East. Out all of them, it is not surprising that a few might have the same name as our current president.

64 posted on 03/22/2011 3:46:42 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: deport
Agree in that I don’t know of any requirements for school and a SS#, but things may have changed now since schools get funding from the Feds and maybe they have to document the funding request with verified SS#s. It’s been too many years since I’ve had a child start school.

Before the 1980's, it wasn't uncommon for people to apply for their first Social Security card when they applied for their first job, just as Obama did.

Today, of course, things are differnt, as a child is assigned a number shortly after birth.

65 posted on 03/22/2011 3:48:33 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: STARWISE

Interesting.

These guys really had a manchurian candidate on their radar that long ago? /s


66 posted on 03/22/2011 3:48:53 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Vendome
I believe my SS# was issued in 1974 and I was eleven at the time. In fact, all my brothers and sisters received their SS# with cards at the same time.

IIRC it was round about that time the IRS began requiring an SSN be listed for each child claimed as a dependent on tax returns.

67 posted on 03/22/2011 3:49:06 PM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: curiosity

I think it has been established that the SSN assigned to Mr. Jean Paul Ludwig when he resided in Connecticut is the same one used by Mr. Obama when he filed his Selective Service Card.


68 posted on 03/22/2011 3:49:39 PM PDT by charleywhiskey
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To: Ann Archy
YIKES!! If ALL or even SOME of that is true, “curiosity” OUGHT to be CURIOUS!!! Are you, curiousity???

Yes, I'm curious why you would find it so damning. As far as I can tell, the only thing the link proves is that there were other people living in the Chicago, New York, and LA metropolitan areas with the name Barack Obama. Given that all three of these areas are large immigration centers, and many immigrants hail from East Africa, it doesn't strike me as particularly strange that a handful of these immigrants would have the same name as our president who happens to have a very typical East African name. That a few of these immigrants might be illegals using invalid SSN's also doesn't strike me as particualrly strange, either.

Tell me, why do you find it so shocking?

69 posted on 03/22/2011 3:53:45 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Catsrus

Zactly!

He might have had a T.I.N. which I believe resembles a Fed ID#.


70 posted on 03/22/2011 3:54:45 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: charleywhiskey
I think it has been established that the SSN assigned to Mr. Jean Paul Ludwig when he resided in Connecticut is the same one used by Mr. Obama when he filed his Selective Service Card.

Interesting. Have you got a source?

71 posted on 03/22/2011 3:55:27 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Could be.

The year Obama’s SSN was issued, the SSA was issuing the location number according to the return address supplied with the application, which they say didn’t have to be and wasn’t necessarily the address and ZIP code supplied on the actual application.

Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro was working in Indonesia during the 1977 - 1979 timeframe in which the SSN was issued. In it not inconceivable to me, since Obama was 16 - 18 years old at the time, that SAD could have filled out the SSN application instead of Madelyn Dunham. If her employer had offices in Connecticut, SAD could have used their offices as a return address and then had a boss or coworker forward the documents to Obama on her behalf. Or maybe she used her Jakarta address and in that case how would the location be assigned? I wonder if anyone has looked into those possibilities. Obama was a minor. It’s doubtful he applied by himself. An adult had to supply information and/or signatures.

I found reference to a letter SAD wrote to a colleague at the East- West Center in 1976 where she said she’s having “Barry” come over (to Indonesia) for the summer. Wonder if they filled out the paperwork together on his visit and then mailed it from Indonesia.


72 posted on 03/22/2011 3:56:48 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: curiosity

Could be.

The year Obama’s SSN was issued, the SSA was issuing the location number according to the return address supplied with the application, which they say didn’t have to be and wasn’t necessarily the address and ZIP code supplied on the actual application.

Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro was working in Indonesia during the 1977 - 1979 timeframe in which the SSN was issued. In it not inconceivable to me, since Obama was 16 - 18 years old at the time, that SAD could have filled out the SSN application instead of Madelyn Dunham. If her employer had offices in Connecticut, SAD could have used their offices as a return address and then had a boss or coworker forward the documents to Obama on her behalf. Or maybe she used her Jakarta address and in that case how would the location be assigned? I wonder if anyone has looked into those possibilities. Obama was a minor. It’s doubtful he applied by himself. An adult had to supply information and/or signatures.

I found reference to a letter SAD wrote to a colleague at the East- West Center in 1976 where she said she’s having “Barry” come over (to Indonesia) for the summer. Wonder if they filled out the paperwork together on his visit and then mailed it from Indonesia.


73 posted on 03/22/2011 3:56:59 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: charleywhiskey

*snip*

A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally received it and released it to me.

But the release of Obama’s draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obama’s claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.

[...]

The official campaign for President may be over. But Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration card and accompanying documents show that questions about him are not only NOT over, but if the signature on the document is in fact his, our next Commander-in-Chief may have committed a federal crime in 2008, well within the statute of limitations on the matter.

If it is not his, then it’s proof positive that our next Commander-in-Chief never registered with the Selective Service as required by law. By law, he was required to register and was legally able to do so until the age of 26.

But the Selective Service System registration (”SSS Form 1”) and accompanying computer print-out (”SSS Print-out), below, released by the Selective Service show the following oddities and irregularities, all of which indicate the document was created in 2008 and backdated:

* Document Location Number Indicates Obama Selective Service Form was Created in 2008

Read it all (look at scans)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/did-president-e.html


74 posted on 03/22/2011 3:57:04 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: TheRightGuy

Yep. My mother couldn’t believe it. She said something about each of us getting a job and laughed.


75 posted on 03/22/2011 3:58:29 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: faucetman; curiosity
“In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at.
76 posted on 03/22/2011 4:08:45 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: curiosity
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You ARE NOT the LEAST curious!!! HAHAHHAHA....what a freaking joke!!

I think you may be Robert Fibbs!!

77 posted on 03/22/2011 4:12:25 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wintertime
“In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at.

Yeah, and they all happened to have his known SSN that begins with 042 assiciated with them, along with another SSN. Gee, I wonder who that second SSN belonged to...her name couldn't possibly be Michelle?

78 posted on 03/22/2011 4:17:35 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Occums razor makes the typo theory more pluasible. as it is the simplest and requires the fewest assumptions. Just change the lead digit of his zip code from a "9" to a "0" and, whala, you have a CT zip code. Furthermore, mistyping a 0 for a 9 is a very common typographical error.
79 posted on 03/22/2011 4:27:00 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Jamese777
80 posted on 03/22/2011 4:27:54 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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