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To: patlin; Red Steel; rxsid; edge919

have a look at this..

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=k_E6AAAAIBAJ&sjid=fyoMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1482,13599073&dq=born+subject+to+jurisdiction&;


117 posted on 03/10/2011 4:16:32 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

The court ruled correct. Under the treaty that was ratified between the US & Great Britain after the passing of the 14th Amendment, Joyce was at his birth a natural born citizen, however, when he swore an oath to Great Britain & obtained a British passport, he renounced his US citizenship. US law was very clear at that time & the gaining of any foreign passport mneant automatic loss of US citizenship. The current law in place that says holding dual passports does not automatically renounce US citizenship was not changed until either the Carter or Clinton administrations.


120 posted on 03/10/2011 5:01:11 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: bushpilot1

Interesting story. So Lord Haw Haw was of split allegiances. Born in the U.S., and still was a subject to the British crown where the Brits still hanged him for treason from the gallows. This fits nicely with Kawikita V. United States, 1952. Kawikita had spit allegiances or duel citizenship and who was also found of treason against the United States.

There is an object lesson here about these two court cases concerning Obama.


147 posted on 03/10/2011 10:26:28 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: bushpilot1

Important, re your link
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=k_E6AAAAIBAJ&sjid=fyoMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1482,13599073&dq=born+subject+to+jurisdiction&;

further info from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_haw_haw

....Joyce was captured by British forces in northern Germany just as the war ended,[17] tried, and eventually hanged for treason on 3 January 1946. Joyce’s defence team, appointed by the court, argued that, as an American citizen and naturalised German, Joyce could not have been convicted of treason against the British Crown. However, the prosecution successfully argued on the basis of a technicality that having lied about his nationality to obtain a British passport and to vote, Joyce owed allegiance to the king....

Significance, should it be found Obama is not an American Citizen, his possesion of a US passport and oath of allegiance to same could still subject him to charges of treason should it be found he is ineligible...


149 posted on 03/11/2011 2:30:19 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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