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Officer Puts His Firearm In A Jail Lock Box And Shoots Himself And A Border Patrol Agent
armedselfdefense.blogspot.com ^ | 03/08/11 | Gun Nut

Posted on 03/08/2011 12:12:24 PM PST by Sasparilla

An officer is sure to become the "Butt" of station house jokes after a holding area video surveillance camera shows him shooting himself in the rear. The bullet also hit a Border Patrol Officer. Here's the video...

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TOPICS: Government; Local News
KEYWORDS: banglist; bangswitch; boogerhook; gunsafety
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To: Lazlo in PA

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21 posted on 03/08/2011 12:43:58 PM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: UCANSEE2
Maybe they should invent a thing called a ‘safety lock’, and put them on all guns.

But Glock did put on on their gun. It's on the trigger, so you have to pull the trigger before you can pull the trigger...

22 posted on 03/08/2011 12:44:15 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

When you draw your 1911 A1 how long does it take to rack the slide then aim?

How long does it take to take the thumb safety off?

How long does it take to move it from half cock to full cock?

I sure prefer mine to a Glock.


23 posted on 03/08/2011 12:51:02 PM PST by BillM
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To: BillM

The answer is to put a “New York” 5.5 lb pull trigger on the Glock. (NOT.)

If you carry chamber empty, then it doesn’t matter if it’s a 1911 or a Glock. If you carry cocked and locked, then the 1911’s thumb and grip safties are better than the Glock’s ‘Safe Action’ trigger, but then you have to remove the thumb safety on the 1911.

All you have to remember in the Glock is to pull the trigger very firmly, because your Department thinks you’re as dumb and the guy in the video.


24 posted on 03/08/2011 1:01:27 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

I guess I’m saying that I can’t imagine many scenarios where I wouldn’t have time to rack the slide.

I only like one in the chamber when I am pointed downrange.


25 posted on 03/08/2011 1:06:08 PM PST by BillM
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To: Yo-Yo
The answer is to put a “New York” 5.5 lb pull trigger on the Glock. (NOT.)

The stock trigger on a Glock is 5.5 lb.

A "New York" Glock trigger is 12 or 14 lb.


26 posted on 03/08/2011 1:14:40 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Yo-Yo

The 5.5 lb trigger is the standard pull weight for glocks NY triggers come in 8lb and 12 lb pul weights.


27 posted on 03/08/2011 1:29:14 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
OK, make me look it up:

Glock New York Trigger Options.

Even Glock seems a little confused because they claim the NY1 trigger is 11 lbs, and the NY2 is even stiffer at ... 11 lbs.

Go figure!

28 posted on 03/08/2011 1:30:41 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: UCANSEE2

That’s a special feature available on Glocks, I hear. /S


29 posted on 03/08/2011 1:34:23 PM PST by pingman (You can lead a liberal to logic, but you can't make them think.)
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To: Vinnie

I’ve owned and carried a glock for over 10 years. Granted I’m not a highly trained LEO but my firearm has never “accidentally” discharged.


30 posted on 03/08/2011 1:37:06 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BillM

“I guess I’m saying that I can’t imagine many scenarios where I wouldn’t have time to rack the slide.”

I used to think that, then someone tried to carjack me. I got away without firing any shots and fortunately their gun jammed.

I would not have had time to chamber a round if their gun had not jammed. no way, no how

just my 2 cents


31 posted on 03/08/2011 1:40:40 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Selmore

He hit him with the feather that replaced his baton.


32 posted on 03/08/2011 1:40:59 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: driftdiver; BillM
good $.02 dd...i figure the most likely scenario will be walkin across a large parkin lot...

w/o a doubt, it would be easy to get within arms length before i *knew* it was a BG...

1911 is designed to be cocked, and it wont fire w/o the trigger pulled even if UN-locked'...now theres $.04 on the table...

33 posted on 03/08/2011 1:49:11 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

LOLOLOL...God, I needed that today. Thanks.


34 posted on 03/08/2011 2:03:58 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Man the pitchforks and torches.......let the revolution begin)
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To: BillM

It’s a trade-off. When I carry a 1911 I also generally carry it with an empty chamber. I also train that way and have gotten proficient at the draw-rack-aim drill. There is time between drawing and aiming, too... and this time can be used to rack the slide on the way up. I just don’t like carrying a pistol with the hammer back on a live round. I’ve decided that for me, it’s an acceptable trade for the significant reduction in risk. I never use the safety switch. Ever.

However... when I carry my Sig, I carry it with a round in the chamber and the hammer down. It has a long double-action trigger for the first round. In this way, it’s not any different than carrying a revolver.

Who would carry a revolver with the hammer back, in a holster? Nobody. Well... nobody ~smart~ anyway. A safety switch just isn’t enough insurance, either. :-)


35 posted on 03/08/2011 2:14:25 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: driftdiver

I’m not saying it can’t be done. I just think that the possibility of the trigger getting caught on a coat, cell phone, mascara pencil in a purse, etc. has to be given some consideration and precautions taken.

For me that is adding another layer of safety. A New York trigger could add that layer also. Or carry Israeli style, empty chamber.


36 posted on 03/08/2011 2:20:51 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Yo-Yo
NY 1 increases pull from 5.5 lb to 11 lb

NY 2 increases pull from 7 lb to 11 lb

Stock trigger is 5.5 lb


37 posted on 03/08/2011 2:26:59 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Sasparilla

To paraphrase the late Richard Pryor:

“Motherf#%ker shot me in the @as!”


38 posted on 03/08/2011 2:31:38 PM PST by PLMerite (Thanks for fixing the clock.)
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter

bang


39 posted on 03/08/2011 2:42:59 PM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: Vinnie

“I’m not saying it can’t be done. I just think that the possibility of the trigger”

I agree its a consideration. Proper training, care, and a good holster are how I address this concern.


40 posted on 03/08/2011 3:20:23 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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