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To: andy58-in-nh

Your comment:

The problem is that Palin has made a bad impression on independent voters, without whom no Republican (or Democrat) has a prayer of winning.

Where is your proof, and what bad impression?

Based on your opinion and the mouse in your pocket or a small sampled RINO poll?

Blanket, bs statement, sorry my friend I have to call it like I see it.

Cheers


30 posted on 03/01/2011 12:10:44 PM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall; andy58-in-nh

Well USSR what you Palinistas are ignoreing is that, as Andy said, there is a solid dislike for your god in the middle of the road voters. No one on either side can win without their support. Palin does not have it. Her negatives have stayed the same for the last two years.

Here are the facts you asked for:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/


38 posted on 03/01/2011 12:37:39 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall
Show me a single poll where Sarah Palin earns even a plurality of positive impressions from self-described Independent voters.

I myself cannot find one.

Here is one article on the subject:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/02/16/president_palins_long_odds_in_2012_104420.html

Now here is a link to all the recent Palin vs. Obama polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_palin_vs_obama-1169.html

You'll have to look at each individually, but one of the things that emerges from the "cross-tabs" (internal sample cross-tabulation) is how negatively she rates among independents. Full disclosure: among other things, I analyze statistics for a living.

Now, I have a theory on that, based partly on experience but also on discussions with colleagues. I don't think it will help her in the long run, but I believe the problem is primarily cultural and regional. People who live in the urban and inner suburban population centers of the Northeast and West Coast are largely - but not exclusively liberal. However, they are almost uniformly predisposed - as a matter of cultural preference - to hear a voice like Sarah's and think "uneducated", "inarticulate", "simple" or "rube" or something negative like that. They prefer people who sound like they went to Harvard or Yale.... never mind for a minute that these are the very people who are destroying the country, but it is a very distinct urban elitist prejudice and very hard to overcome.

I'm just giving you the summary, "Cliff Notes" version here - there's a lot more. The problem is that we are dealing here with attitudes, not necessarily ideas or beliefs. It's going to make Sarah's prospective candidacy very challenging, as will her celebrity persona.

Now you might argue that none of this ought to matter, and perhaps it should not, but add to the mix a thoroughly rotten, hostile, one-sided news media and the mountain gets a whole lot taller to climb.

Gotta call it like I see it, too.

40 posted on 03/01/2011 12:38:03 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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