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To: pastorbillrandles; 6ft2inhighheelshoes
11 And the Angel of the Lord said to her: "Behold, you are with child, And you shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, Because the Lord has heard your affliction.
12 He shall be a wild man; His hand shall be against every man, And every man's hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."
There's really nothing in that passage or anywhere else in the Bible to support the notion that ancient Ishmael has any bearing on things today, is there? The fact is that by any plain reading of the text we can see that it is confined to one man, Ishmael.

Didn't you just pick a text and allegorize it to fit our modern situation?

7 posted on 03/01/2011 6:53:45 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: topcat54
Whatever you say TopCat- For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. Galatians 4
8 posted on 03/01/2011 8:29:06 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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