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To: Seizethecarp; Spaulding

The Supreme court has told us a natural born Citizen is born to citizen parents.

It has never told us a NBC is born to an alien and a citizen.

Perhaps the subject of natural born Citizenship is to complicated for some in this forum and limit themselves to the birth certificate....

The BC posted on the internet is a fraud..there can be no doubt...but it does mean Obama was not born in Hawaii.

In late 50’s and early 60’s there was an exodus of White settlers departing East Africa due to Independence and the Mau Mau uprisings.

I attended numerous classes and briefings on East Africa prior to my 4 year deployment to an Embassy in that area.

Natural born Citizen should be the primary focus..Ann Dunham going to Mombassa..is remote.

Remember it matters not where peregrine Obama was born..he can never be a natural born Citizen based on the foreign citizenship of his father.

Peregrine Obama is not a citizen based on the 14th Amendment subject to jurisdiction clause.


101 posted on 02/27/2011 9:02:47 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1; LucyT
“Natural born Citizen should be the primary focus..Ann Dunham going to Mombassa..is remote.

“Remember it matters not where peregrine Obama was born..he can never be a natural born Citizen based on the foreign citizenship of his father.”

Everything about Obama and his family members is “remote”!

Both NBC by soil and by blood are worthy of investigation and the analysis of circumstantial evidence.

This thread happens to be based on possible Kenyan birth. I have read every post on Leo Donofrio’s blog and agree with his analysis of what NBC meant to the founders.

However, it is recognized US law now and at the time of the founding that the “bastard” child of a legally unmarried mother, such as a bigamously married Stanley Ann, receives only the unitary nationality of the mother.

Under the 1948 BNA Obama is explicitly NOT a UK subject due to his father's bigamy and thus is NOT a dual citizen of the UK and US, per my best research.

Stanley Ann and Barack Sr are on record in HI as being married (bigamously) in Feb 1961. Stanley Ann had six months to get to Kenya for a possible delivery there and had three weeks after the birth to get from Kenya to Seattle where witnesses and her transcript show she started school there.

Stanley Ann was drawn to Africans (at least one) and romanticized non-whites. She spent most of her life in equatorial tropical areas with non-whites.

Yes Mau Mau were rampaging then, but in the summer of 1961, historic events were occurring in Kenya which could have attracted Stanley Ann. Obama Sr. and her parents had every reason to spirit a pregnant Stanley Ann out of HI, ASAP and hide her away out of HI after the birth. Kenya might have been the first stop for her and after the birth and some disillusionment with life in tribal Africa, U of Washington might have been the next stop.

Obama’s actions in refusing to release his HI vital records betray fear of ineligibility, IMO.

102 posted on 02/27/2011 9:34:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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