Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

To: Free Vulcan

Sounds like propaganda to me sir.

The production of ethanol uses far more energy than the use of sole fossil fuels.

Ethanol can’t be sent up through the pipe lines and need to be loaded on trucks, which I remind you need gasoline to run.

When you add the natural gas use to run the plants to create the ethanol it just puts it over the top.

Don’t forget the engine damage it causes in boats and cars which has opened a whole new market of additives that prevent this damage.(more energy)

Ethanol is a total government grab for control, creating inefficiencies and more environmental problems of fertilizer runoff etc....

Sorry bud, not sure who is paying you but it flies in the face of reason.

Ethanol is driving the price of all foods up because they are using land (finite) to produce corn not available for consumption. Basic economics, go educate yourself and come back to me then we may be able to have a reasonable discussion.


14 posted on 02/25/2011 9:49:47 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]


To: USSR Didnt Fall

You are welcome to use facts to refute me newby.

Ethanol is slightly energy positive. The main proponent of your ‘facts’ is David Pimintel, know leftist hack professor. He says ethanol is a heavy user of water because he counts the rain that falls on the corn that would fall anyway if no corn was planted there.

Oil is brought over in ships, piped in pipelines, and hauled in trucks. All use energy to do that, as do the refineries to refine it. You are acting as if it is only ethanol that does that. There are several studies showing ethanol is energy positive. Educate yourself.

I’m not arguing engine damage, but that wasn’t your original argument. Changing the subject doesn’t bolster your facts.

Ethanol sucks, but if we didn’t have ethanol we’d have subsidized meat and exports as a foreign policy tool, which was the original intent of our farm policy. I have no desire to go back to that paradigm either. If you don’t like subsidized ethanol, then you don’t get subsidized meat.

Much of the propaganda about ethanol is by people who want cheap meat back. The farmer isn’t obligated to feed the world out of his own pocket.


16 posted on 02/25/2011 10:26:43 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson