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A Bachelor’s Degree for $10K? Yes, We Can
Pajamas Media ^ | February 23, 2011 | Publius Audax

Posted on 02/23/2011 4:34:25 AM PST by decimon

In his recent State of the State address, Texas Governor Rick Perry called for the state’s universities to begin offering a bachelor’s degree with a total cost (including tuition, fees, and textbooks) of only $10,000, in contrast to the current $26,800 to $45,300. If we include the cost to taxpayers, the total bill (at UT-Austin) runs to at least $95,000.

Can we really reduce that cost by nearly 90%, while maintaining or even improving quality? Yes, we can, if we do two things: intelligently exploit the huge economies of scale in higher education in Texas, with 950,000 students in college; and take full advantage of technology.

Students in our state universities spend most of their academic careers in large lecture courses. The word “lecture” dates from the Middle Ages, meaning “reading.” In the days before the printing press, when books were rare, it made sense for students to fill lecture halls so they could hear their teachers read aloud — this standard operating procedure of higher education is now 500 years old. With the availability of high-speed streaming, downloading, and wifi, the old methods make less and less sense.

At our state universities, there are as many as 100 different bachelor’s programs available, from Portuguese to textiles and apparels. There are few required classes in most majors: instead each university offers thousands of electives, each course being designed and delivered by individual faculty on an ad hoc basis. The vast cafeteria of offerings generates the need for thousands of different textbook titles, burdening students with hundreds of dollars of additional expense.

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To: hopespringseternal

>> $50k community college/tea-sip

Hey! Watch it! I resemble that remark.

But my ACC + UT degree cost me WAY less than $50K, and it has paid itself back many times since then.

Of course I chose to pursue an actual SKILL, not a PolySci or history degree.


21 posted on 02/23/2011 5:33:42 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Yo-Yo
"What ground shaking breakthroughs occurred in Calculus over those four years that demanded three rewrites of the book?"

Exactly the argument I was making in college too. It was the same for our physics classes too. Its not justified and is ripe with scandal. Reform in academia is over-due, is much needed, and none too soon.

22 posted on 02/23/2011 5:33:56 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: hopespringseternal
As an employer, are you more going to view a candidate ...

Ugh, with grammar like that, no wonder nobody wants a degree from YYU.

Let's try again: "As an employer, are you more going to view a candidate ..."

23 posted on 02/23/2011 5:36:12 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Nervous Tick; squarebarb
Don’t apologize — “I am fluent in Spamish” may win funniest post of the day today.

I thought it was funny! It perfectly illustrated how fluent squarebarb is. Of course, since I don't speak or write Spamish I wasn't sure whether it was a mistake or not.

Quite awhile back I was correcting someone's grammar and commented a grammar faux pas myself in the effort. Someone had to point it out to me.

Good thing I proof read this else I would have had another.

24 posted on 02/23/2011 5:41:09 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

>> Good thing I proof read this else I would have had another.

Uh... “proofread” is one word.

...

(JUST KIDDING)


25 posted on 02/23/2011 5:42:44 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

>> top 25 football program and is BCS eligible... I don’t think you can get that for ten grand.

Judging by UT’s dismal performance last season, you can’t get it for ten million, either.


26 posted on 02/23/2011 5:44:49 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Caipirabob

Thanks for the morning chuckle.


27 posted on 02/23/2011 5:48:39 AM PST by midcop402
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To: decimon

right here...

http://www.straighterline.com/onlinecollegecourses/?siteID=x9UhajBkJLA-FCN2ZgbUJQULKAE9JmRK0g


28 posted on 02/23/2011 5:51:13 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Nervous Tick; squarebarb

“Don’t apologize — “I am fluent in Spamish” may win funniest post of the day today.”

It’s the people effluent in Spammish that bother me.


29 posted on 02/23/2011 5:52:10 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

I’m surprised that Rick Perry hasn’t asked UT to offer a degree in “Illegal Alien economies of scale”. His big bidness friends could teach the courses.

Your lab partner might be an actual illegal alien kid with a 2.5 GPA from his inner city high school. He was a top 10% kid and is probably on a full ride scholarship from La Raza!

Jan Brewer to Rick Perry..... “Hi Rick, are you a man or a mouse”

Perry..... “squeak (nibbles cheese) squeak”


30 posted on 02/23/2011 5:59:06 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: decimon
Congress should investigate the entire American University system to find the Scams and Boondoggles..
and why its hard to find a conservative professor.. or course of study..
31 posted on 02/23/2011 6:03:45 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Elderberry
My daughter buys books that are one edition out of date. NO problem! In fact, in the rare cases that there are new additions to the material, the instructors and the professors point it out, since most of the students in the classes are also buy old edition books.

She is a pre-nursing student. These are introductory science courses and little changes from one edition to the next.

Her books run under $10 each, and that includes shipping.

32 posted on 02/23/2011 6:06:21 AM PST by wintertime
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To: mo

That could work but it’s still fairly expensive. $400.00 for three credits and additional expense for any texts and tests, like CLEP.

iStudySmart is another and that covers many more courses. But it also gets to be expensive.

The cheapest way is through independent study and ‘testing out’ through CLEP, DANTES, etc. Apply those credits to an assessment college (Excelsior College, Charter Oak State College, Thomas Edison State College) and you have a degree on the cheap.


33 posted on 02/23/2011 6:08:19 AM PST by decimon
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To: hosepipe
and why its hard to find a conservative professor.. or course of study.

That's OK it will only be $10,000 for indoctrination now! And the people cheered...

34 posted on 02/23/2011 6:11:00 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.; hosepipe

35 posted on 02/23/2011 6:22:39 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Nervous Tick
Uh... “proofread” is one word.

You know, I did hesitate over that and I am still not sure. I am too lazy to check it out. I'll just pretend that proofreed is one word and proof red is two. Yes, I am hooked on phonics.

36 posted on 02/23/2011 6:36:30 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; Nervous Tick
"and commented a grammar faux pas myself"

And don't you mean that you "committed" a grammar faux pas?

37 posted on 02/23/2011 7:06:39 AM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: hopespringseternal; decimon
Thought tu was supposed to make full freshman year available on-line. That was their plan 3 or 4 yrs ago.
Has anyone heard differently?
38 posted on 02/23/2011 7:07:22 AM PST by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: Onelifetogive; Mind-numbed Robot

Dang! You’re GOOD. We both missed that one.

You are now appointed head proofreader. I’m taking early lunch and the rest of the afternoon off. :-)


39 posted on 02/23/2011 7:10:39 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: LoveUSA
“..but is still Title IX compliant.”

Oookay, let's throw in a Lingerie Football program so to keep things even :)

40 posted on 02/23/2011 7:10:56 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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