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To: airborne
I think the failure to vet Obama or McCain indicts the elitists of both parties, including Rove, Ailes and enabler O’Reilly.

O’Reilly got a 1 billion viewer audience for his Super Bowl interview with Obama and want his program to be a “safe zone” for Obama on the “birther” issue.

But O’Reilly’s no-spin claim is now tattered by his own spin claiming that the birth certificate issue “doesn't matter”.

I think he got a bit of mail from viewers after he made that claim earlier this week.

13 posted on 02/16/2011 6:29:45 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

Both parties suck!

O’Reilly sucks too!

And so does Rove! Big time!


21 posted on 02/16/2011 6:37:59 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Seizethecarp
But O’Reilly’s no-spin claim is now tattered by his own spin claiming that the birth certificate issue “doesn't matter”.

O’Reilly is correct. The birth certificate claims are misdirection, and largely irrelevent, sad, because Corsi’s book on Kerry focused on facts. Birthright citizenship is part of the nomenclature familiar to our framers when they compiled the Constitution. Natural born citizen meant the same thing. And every Senator, in April 2008, understood the term and signed Senate Resolution 511 confirming their understanding:

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

Discussions about missing documents are designed to redirect attention from the truth used in SR 511 to enable McCain to run as the opponent of an obviously ineligible candidate. Because McCain was not born on sovereign soil his problem is a technicality, but a real obstacle, which should be resolved by amendment, or possibly, a reinterpretation of the accepted interpretation. That interpretation, repeated a dozen times or more by our justices, about which there is no doubt, and is thus our common law. Here is just one such clear statement, this by Chief Justice Morrison Waite from his decision in Minor v. Happersett:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

Ignore the rumors. They aren't necessary. Read the clear statement of Justice Waite. He explains “At common-law...” because almost all terms used in the Constitution are based upon definitions from our common law, “the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar.”

As every senator, including Obama resolved, and over a dozen Supreme Court Justices have repeated in dicta or their private legal writings, to be President requires birth to a citizen, because citizens possess sole allegiance to our republic, and born on our sovereign territory (the Canal Zone, Coco Solo Naval Base, was not sovereign territory until a year after McCain was born). Obama is patently not a Constitutional president. McCain's behavior in this crisis demonstrates why he too would have been a poor choice - he has put his feelings of entitlement above our foundation, our laws, the first nation built upon laws and not blood lines.

We need an amendment to make the foreign born children of Military citizens eligible, exactly the title of the bill Claire McCaskill and Obama tried to pass in February of 2008, SB2678 (it failed). But they didn't pose it as an amendment, so it could have had no effect. They showed, however, that they understood McCain's eligibility problem exactly, and would have controlled him had he somehow won the election.

Trust facts, not rumors. If Seizethecarp is not working for Obama, his misdirection is having the same affect. Birthers, if they understand Birthright Citizenship, understand Obama’s ineligibility. We know, because he told us, that Barack has little use for the Constitution because “it doesn't allow me to do the things I believe the nation needs.” We know his administration doesn't pay attention to federal court injunctions.

With two justices possessing a similar regard for the Constitution, it is clear the Supreme Court will continue to duck its head, in spite of precedence and the Constitution itself. which states that the court “shall have original jurisdiction,” because Obama is a public minister. This is an argument the Supreme Court can resolve, but evaded, in violation of their responsibility. We must make them accountable. Congress and Dick Cheney have failed their responsibility to validate the eligibility of our president before inauguration.

The Supreme Court failed to take the case, Kerchner v. Obama & Congress, charging Congress, Pelosi, and Cheney, where they have appellate jurisdiction by Article II Section 2. Our leadership has been corrupted, but we still can, by knowing the allegiances of the representatives we elect, cleanse the legislature, the federal courts, the Supreme Court, and the military of those who clearly ignored our Constitution - and we must!

70 posted on 02/16/2011 11:11:34 PM PST by Spaulding
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