[epow]

It's hard to explain how the Mexicans and our own BATFE people came up with the grossly misleading data, but the full article and the pie chart makes it much clearer.

[Puckster]

Thanks, good post.

[dila813]

This is an extremely old story, I must have seen this in one form or another a dozen times, maybe it is a reprint because it was just so great, don’t know.

[Dapper 26]

Is there any report, statistic, domestic or foreign policy from this flipp’n government that’s worth a damn?

[iopscusa]

ATF is a rogue agency within a rogue Government....just search regarding the ‘gunwalker’ issue to find out more about the fascist agencies.

[SuperLuminal]

Good find!

[DrC]

Regardless of whether the real number is 12% or 90%, what difference does it make? When Mexicans can control their own border to keep hundreds of thousands from illegally coming into the U.S. each year, then we can worry about something needs to be done about controlling the cross-border flow of guns.

[FreeAtlanta]

Leftist lie.

[DrC]

“Of these 30,000 firearms, information pertaining to 7,200 of them (24 percent) was submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) for tracing. Of these 7,200 guns, only about 4,000 could be traced by the ATF, and of these 4,000, some 3,480 (87 percent) were shown to have come from the United States.”

I hate to be a party-pooper, but 87% is not an unreasonable inference. Consider the following. 30,000 people voted in an election. Information pertaining to 7,200 was submitted to the U.S. Elections Commission. So long as this was a random sample, without any obvious selection bias that would have made it more likely for 65-year olds to be in that sub-group than others, there is no problem.

Of the 7,200, information on age could only be obtained for 4,000. Again, unless age information was more likely to be available for one age category compared to another, this shrinkage of the sample is no problem. Of the 4,000, 3,840 were found to be below age 65, i.e., 87%. Given a choice between believing only 12% of voters are under age 65 and 87%, which do YOU think is the more reasonable statistic, i.e., the one closest to the true fraction?

Sure, we only “know” 3,840 are below age 65. But likewise we only “know” the age of 4,000 in the entire group of 30,000. Comparing the “known” number of non-elderly to the entire group and acting as if this 12% is in any way an informative figure is a good way of convincing the Left that we don’t even know high school math. Not a winning argument IMHO.

[TigersEye]

Is it time to play hungry hungry hippos?

[umgud]

I don’t care if 100% came from us. Our RKBA, as affirmed by the constitution, was not contingent on some future crime problem in Mexico or the USA.