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To: snippy_about_it; Reagan69

But isn’t that his whole “Gandhi” premise? That us getting worked up into violence is exactly what facilitates the leftist dream scenario? That if we fail to respond as we are being programmed to respond, their plan fails? What if they held a revolution and no one showed up?

Meanwhile, other tactics can be deployed in parallel to not responding to the Pavlovian conditioning, such as winning more elections than we should, staying more vigilant about structural attacks than we should, and being better people than they expect us to be. Because if Beck has anything right at all, its that the left takes a very cynical view of human nature, builds its whole strategy on a belief that people are just chemical equations that can be controlled through the right sequence of stimuli. The elite would-be gods of the left do not even view us as sheep; more like bacteria, good for nothing but to be pressed into the service of their gigantic egos. Beck is advocating the Gandhi route because that negates their institutional advantage by trashing a key component of their plan, the predictability of human response to a physical crisis, not entirely unlike the premise of Satan’s attack on Job. I’m not sure I agree with it in whole, but on its face it’s not a bad theory.


80 posted on 02/12/2011 7:29:23 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

You are misunderstanding the chaos principle. It is not us that will be worked up into a frenzy, it is the college students, the minorities and the union workers who will be rioting in the streets, demanding their rights.

The college students want free college, free health insurance and your job. They want the baby boomers to retire and go on SS.

The Blacks, at least the lazy ones, want your life, they want your house and your community, if not specifically your house and community, they want us to make their community just like ours (but they want us to maintain it for them, too).

The union workers want power, power over you to force you to meet their demands.


83 posted on 02/12/2011 7:38:04 AM PST by Eva
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To: Springfield Reformer

He talks out of both sides of his mouth. I understand him to say obama et al are out to destroy us but we are to do nothing about it except be passive.

Ok, let’s say obama gets his yutes riled up and they stage a massive protest. obama comes out and says he needs to listen to the ‘people’.

Problem is, since this is the progressive’s own set up, what the yutes want is for the great one to spread the wealth, institue obama care, etc. So obama gives in to the demands of the very people they organized to protest. And we do what? Sing kumbaya and go out and vote these criminals out of office? With elections rigged in the major leftist cities throughout the land?

Now Beck would have us not rise up against these people because that is supposedly what they want. We rise up, they impose martial law and obama says we have to listen to the yutes demands and we are a fringe sect, lock us up, maybe confiscate our guns. Now what? We are still in the same boat aren’t we. Obama institutes socialism either way.

My scenario, how about we rise up and win. I think the ploy of them wanting us to rise up is just raised to convince us that’s what they want so we won’t do it. I dare say, they do not want us to go to the streets and we really, really should.

I don’t want to remain silent and go quietly into the boxcars.


92 posted on 02/12/2011 8:06:06 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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