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No Coal, No Power, No Gas
American Thinker ^ | February 11, 2011 | Jeffrey Folks

Posted on 02/11/2011 6:30:19 AM PST by radioone

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The "money quote": The Texas blackouts are a foretaste of what the rest of the country can expect, given the concerted effort of the Obama administration to shut down coal generating plants and to place obstacles in the way of coal mining.
1 posted on 02/11/2011 6:30:22 AM PST by radioone
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To: radioone

This has been a demonstration of the difference between wind power and actual base load power sources.

It is also a demonstration why power grid design and power grid policy should involve people who are called “electrical engineers” instead of people called “environmental activists” or “community organizers.”


2 posted on 02/11/2011 6:35:05 AM PST by NVDave
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To: radioone

What did we say in the 70’s?

May all you ecology freaks freeze to death in the dark...


3 posted on 02/11/2011 6:37:11 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 751 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: radioone

Environmentalists are cut-your-nose-off-in-spite-of-your-face nutjobs that are protected by the judicial system.


4 posted on 02/11/2011 6:38:24 AM PST by deadrock (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Philo)
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To: DEADROCK

we need a common sense leader who will tell all these nut jobs to go F themselves.


5 posted on 02/11/2011 6:44:56 AM PST by henry_reardon
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To: radioone

“Unfortunately, environmentalists in Texas who blocked the construction of coal-powered plants and shut down others during the last decade did not consider these consequences.”

Utter hogwash. The environmentalists knew this would happen. Their goal is reducing energy consumption far below current levels. Blackouts are the inevitable result of their policies.


6 posted on 02/11/2011 6:51:47 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: radioone

Not if I can help it.


7 posted on 02/11/2011 6:52:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: radioone

The second shock will come in this month’s electric bills. The rate per kwh went from $50 to $3000, which of course, will be billed to consumers. (Wonder how much Mexico will charge Texans for for rescuing us?)

If they weren’t owned by lobbyists, the Texas legislature would insist that the bill for this poor planning and service by the power companies would be paid by them, not the customers who sat in the dark and froze while the power companies tried to get their act together. It’s high time such evident incompetence is punished.


8 posted on 02/11/2011 6:58:37 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: radioone

I love how they think they’re saving the world by stopping a few needed coal plants in America while China is bringing a new coal plant online every month.

No wonder Trump said yesterday that China is laughing at us.


9 posted on 02/11/2011 6:58:55 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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It was not just in Texas, the rolling black outs in Texas also affected natural gas delivery in New Mexico when pressure levels dropped and whole areas had to have their gas shut off to maintain pressure. Without doing that the Gas company would have lost all control and there would have been uncontrolled outages. It was not until midweek this week that natural gas got turned back on in several locations within the state. New Mexico is also a major source of natural gas.
10 posted on 02/11/2011 6:59:55 AM PST by Rogle
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To: radioone

Any lawyers out there?

It seems to me that there should be a class action suit on behalf of the electric consumers of Texas (and other states) who have been harmed by the named environmental groups and their sponsors.

Let’s bankrupt the bastards who want to force their AGW religion on us!


11 posted on 02/11/2011 7:05:54 AM PST by darth
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To: DugwayDuke

The reason why environmentalists try to create circumstances where we are forced to use less power is because they believe that by making us use less power, science and technology will advance in a magical fashion to find an abundant source of environmentally friendly energy.


12 posted on 02/11/2011 7:14:44 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: kittymyrib

Don’t you mean Mwh?


13 posted on 02/11/2011 7:33:17 AM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: Jonty30

What magical energy source will supplement the power demand this summer when the temps hit the mid 90’s?
Starting to look like we will have lots of blackouts this summer.


14 posted on 02/11/2011 7:39:00 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Jonty30

“The reason why environmentalists try to create circumstances where we are forced to use less power is because they believe that by making us use less power, science and technology will advance in a magical fashion to find an abundant source of environmentally friendly energy.”

Perhaps a few of the more gullible environmentalists believe that. But the real environmentalists believe that we must reduce our standard of living and forcing us to use less power is how they bring that about.

They wouldn’t care if power were abundant and environmentally friendly. For example, try to build windmills and they fight to prevent building transmission lines. They fight to stop solar power plants to prevent ‘eyesores’.


15 posted on 02/11/2011 7:48:36 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Texas resident

That’s not their problem.

That’s your problem.


16 posted on 02/11/2011 7:50:06 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: DEADROCK

“Environmentalists” fall into two categories (and I use the term “environmentalist” very loosely):

Group 1 - The Power: This is a group that is anything BUT concerned about the environment. They are power-hungry people who will use whatever tool is necessary to gain the power they desire over people. They are universally hard-core Marxists who hate the free market, who hate capitalism, and who have the cash to sucker in the second group.

Group 2 - the Useful Sheep: This group are the foot soldiers of Group 1. They are mostly made up of Gaia-worshippers (though they may not admit it) - falling for Satan’s wiles. They value mold, mildew, bugs, and animals over humanity. They may even be lurking in our churches (and a few mainline denominations have chosen to join in - though I think some in the higher-ups of those organizations may actually be of Group 1). Group 2 does include some well-meaning, big-hearted people who are just simply easily fooled. Others are radicals who have a similar view of capitalism as Group 1 members - but also fall for the environmental schemes.

Most politicians who buy into the Environmentalist fraud are actually Group 1 types. Some began or were indoctrinated through the ranks of Group 2, but they were smart enough to see it for what it is - an avenue to power.


17 posted on 02/11/2011 8:00:28 AM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: darth

I am a lawyer in Texas, and the answer, unfortunately, is there’s probably no potential law suit here. You can’t really sue someone for lobbying and filing law suits, which is pretty much all the environmental groups did here.

What happened here was that Gov. Perry issued an executive order after Katrina and the natural gas price spike to expedite the permit hearing process for new power plants, and it was under that expedited process that the permits for the eight TXU plants were sought. The environmental groups and others sued Perry arguing that his executive order was unconstitutional because he did not have the authority as Governor to impose expedited hearing procedures on the Administrative Law Judges who conduct the permit hearings. The judge agreed, even though the Chief ALJ agreed to comply with Perry’s ruling, which is within her discretion. I haven’t heard whether Perry appealed.

It was a ridiculous ruling, in my opinion. Unfortunately, though, there’s nothing there that gives rise to a private cause of action by consumers against the environmental groups.

The only thing I could think of that could form the basis of a suit by consumers would be if you could find some sort of anticompetitive practice by TXU. I don’t see how, though - the buyout doesn’t seem to implicate any antitrust issues, and the decision not to seek permits for new power plants is not the sort of thing that implicates consumer protection statutes like the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act or the consumer protection provisions of the Texas Utilities Code.


18 posted on 02/11/2011 8:29:15 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: DugwayDuke

That’s exactly it. Their real enemy isn’t pollution. Their real enemy is our entire way of life. It’s about time people started realizing that.


19 posted on 02/11/2011 8:35:12 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: radioone

No coal? Stoke the boilers with Liberals!


20 posted on 02/11/2011 8:43:05 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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