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To: DrC

“wouldn’t it have been cheaper for her to have lived with obie sr and gone to school near Harvard like UMass or dozens of other colleges?”

....... Actually, Ann did the cheapest possible thing, which is live with her parents until Obama was born. Perhaps that arrangement got old, led to tensions, whatever. What is beyond dispute is that Ann attended UW for awhile and then returned to HI to finish her degree. None of that proves she had the means to take an enormously expensive flight to Africa.......

No but she did live alone with little obie where she could have lived in Mass together with big obie, one apartment rent instead of two, two babysitters instead of one. Obie Sr had a scholarship elswhere with more money he could have taken SAD and baby with him but didnt he chose Harvard and alone. Maybe she took the trip to Kenya to try and convince him to go to the other college and stay together as a family?

......You provide no evidence of such means nor do you offer even a remotely plausible motive. What’s the point of going all the way to Africa for a birth only to return very shortly thereafter? Sr. hadn’t finished his schooling: the motive cannot have been to live in Africa for any extended period. So again, with facilities 5 times safer in Honolulu, what would motivate anyone to spend more than $10K in today’s dollars to give birth in Africa and then come right back home????.......She could have gone to meet the Fckers err Obamas to get to know his home country and she likely planned on coming back before giving birth but could have gotten stopped from travelling. One of her friends related that SAD planned on moving to Kenya with her husband after he finished school. She could have gotten there and changed her mind especially after possibly finding out he was already married. Very plausible. Ship travel at least part way is also possible, she could have even worked her way across s ship help. SAD whereabouts are unknown for months. She could have travelled over by ship and returned by plane.

...... “Charter and unscheduled airlines were substantially cheaper than scheduled flights, and flew regularly to Hawaii. Tourist specials.”

.....Flew regularly from AFRICA to Hawaii??? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You have provided none.... ROFLMAO no tourist specials from Kenya, from the US. We flew my relative to visit Hawaii on an unscheduled airline.

“The airlift charter was less than $300.”

...... A source would be most useful, since I’d be curious to know whether this was the one-way cost (which seems likely, since those on the airlift did not return to Africa for many years).....

Google it yourself pal, its on the net, or go to the two long threads this research has been hashed over in depth previosly. The first airlift went to NYC

.... If so, then the RT cost is not that much less than my back-of-the-envelope calculation of $800. And even if it represents a RT fare, that still translates into $2200 in today’s dollars. You still haven’t shown where Ann would have gotten the equivalent of even $4400 for the 2 of them to make a flight that makes no logical sense to take in the first place. The average car cost only $2850 that year. The average NEW HOUSE cost $12,500.
http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1961.html
How many people do you know would spend one third the cost of a house to let their knocked-up daughter take a joyride to Africa to birth a son, thereby quintupling the child’s risk of dying in the process? IT MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE....

No what makes no logical sense is mixing YOUR calculated cost of $4400 of today with a house cost of 12,500 50 years ago. Who says they went together? Did you know Obie Sr had sponsors in the US who gave him financial aid? Is it not logical other charters were made for students returning to Africa for the summer and others going to the US for fall sessions? Maybe they wanted the little bastard to abort on the long trip? Ever think of that?

Plausibility and common sense do not seem to run in the Dunham/Obama family, lies certainly do. They do all sorts of weird things. Why did SAD work as an Au Pair in Chicago at age 16 or 17 or did she? Why did the family move to Hawaii? Was SAD the type of free spirited person to go on a long trip alone and pregnant?


233 posted on 02/06/2011 10:16:47 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rolling_stone

Oh, dear. In researching the cost of the airlift, I ran across this:
“But the money [Barack Obama Sr.] saved will only stretch out for two semesters or less because of the high cost of living in Hawaii, he found out,” wrote Hirozawa. “He’ll work, he says, and possibly apply for a scholarship.”

Read more: Oops! Obama tells another nativity fib? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=125351#ixzz1DClateb9

This hardly fits the narrative of a family able/willing to shell out big bucks for Ann to travel to Africa to meet the folks, does it?

And if you’re saying he got the funds from his communist sponsors, wouldn’t a little obligation go with it? How does he explain that the thousands (today’s dollars) they squandered on his wife to fly to Africa ended up being wasted because he decided to abandon her entirely to pursue his studies at Harvard?

I assume you know what a sniff test is. Your theory doesn’t pass it.


236 posted on 02/06/2011 10:37:56 AM PST by DrC
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