I think you're late for your Aryan Nations meeting.
Get off my thread.
Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.
Now is the time to see who stands by Israel. The sheep and the goats are parting ways.
Why should anyone stand for Israel? Seriously. Its a death sentence to do so.
According to your own Prophecy Hucksters, the world's armies are supposed to "surround Jerusalem" and all appearances are to be that Israel will be crushed - then God steps in fights their battle for them.
There is plenty of confusion when this takes place, allegedly it is supposed to occur a few years into the AntiChrist's reign and you are supposed to be gone then, so I'm not quite sure why you and the other consumers of Futurist's dreck are all worried. On the other hand, even the professional fear-mongers among you are wringing their hands over Israel.
Why? In order for the 3rd Temple to be built, there must be an Israel. Right? And in order for there to be this huge kill-off in Jews that you folks fantasize about, doesn't there have to be a conveniently rounded-up group of millions of Jews to kill? So you either believe your prophecy hucksters, or you don't - you can't have it both ways.
I was listening to one of your Hucksters explain to us the Cursings that took place because various U.S. leaders "cursed Abraham". The Northridge earthquake, Hurricane Andrew, and a host of other calamities like the Gulf Oil Spill and our current economic woes are all "Curses" that befell the U.S. as a result of our leaders tried to broker land for peace deals with Israel and her neighbors. All of these attempts to bring Peace to that region of the world apparently are translated by God and the Prophecy Hucksters to be "Curses against Abraham".
Given that background, it would seem that no matter what kind of friend the U.S. is to Israel, all it takes is one politician to shoot-off at the mouth, and hundreds die and billions of dollars are lost to calamity. One could argue that the best thing the U.S. could do at this point is sit back, do nothing (neither "bless" or "curse", especially since we derive no benefit in "blessing" Israel), and let the Muslim world attempt to devour Israel.
By disavowing any attachment to Israel, we won't be in the targets of the Muslim world, and we can save billions of dollars that normally would be lost picking ourselves up from the inevitable "curse" that happens because of our idiotic Department of State.
In fact, Israel, according to you Futurists, could save hundreds of millions of dollars by disbanding their military and intelligence networks since you folks claim that God will defend them. So make up your minds, who is more likely to protect Israel, a few F-16s or God?
You Dispensationalists come off looking like fools because you say one thing and then act as if the opposite is true. If Israel is going to be defended by God, then why do you care if Israel has any friends? If YOU are supposed to be partying in heaven for seven years while all hell breaks loose on Earth, why are you worried about troop movements and riots in the Middle East?
I don't want to say that this is cognitive dissonance, but your crowd surely makes it look that way.
I think you're late for your Aryan Nations meeting.
Get off my thread.
Ha! You funny.
I’m not a Zionist but this global end-run to annihilate us and Israel, well I will go down fighting for Israel. the moslem hordes are about to be unleashed on them
I’ll attempt to respond to your many points- you’ve obviously thought about it all a fair amount.
First, I don’t consider oil spills, earthquakes, tornadoes, blizzards, etc. to be curses or judgements. There has been sufficient calamity throughout history when there was no Israel to support for me to tie the two.
But now there is an Israel, in part because of the Jews themselves desiring to reestablish, and partly because of political and military assistance by G. Britain, the US and others. One might argue that God put the nation back together (such as it is), but if one assumes that, then there was certainly considerable human effort in concert.
This is not a new concept for Christendom- ergo the Crusades.
I am purposely avoiding prophecy, but I must mention at this point that while many nations are fairly identifiable in end times prophecy; the USA is not. There are various schools of thought as to why. I’d like to think, but in no ways am certain that there is an opportunity for the US to play an important role to the end- certainly it has already in many ways, not the least of which is the Great Commission.
None of this is expected to make sense to the secular world. There is no political reason to support Israel; only the historical and religious one. I’ll leave you with a quote from Winston Churchill, one of the great futurists and leaders of our time.
”The coming into being of a Jewish State in Palestine is an event in world history to be viewed in the perspective not of a generation or a century, but in the perspective of a thousand, two thousand or even three thousand years.”
My God told me to.
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."