If this theory pans out, or the Soetoro-name theory is correct, or some other legal theory regarding Obama's eligibility proves to be true, the Democrats will say:
"We are trying to depose the President over mere technicalities! The American people voted for this guy, whatever his legal name is, or the arcane technicalities of citizenship law, or the facts of the long past days of his youth. Selection of the President is the ultimate political question, which nobody can or should second guess!"
We KNOW this is what they will say if some provable legal problem emerges. I hope we can come up with an explanation why this is critically important to all Americans, that speaks to today's issues and concerns, and is not too legalistic.
I tend to think, like with most scandals, that the coverup will be perceived to be worse than the crime.
“... The most important thing here, is that the Obama divorce lists Obama Sr. as the biological and legal father of Barry/Obama (1964). IN the Soetoro divorce (1980) he is listed as Soetoros’ legal child. He would not be listed at all, if in fact he was not the LEGAL father of Soetoro, as he was already the age of majority...”
Long but interesting:
http://james4america.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/obama-included-in-soetoro-divorce-papers/
“...January 17, 2009 at 4:11 pm
John Jay
The divorce papers that many are missing state that they have 2 children. One a minor and one not a minor attending university. Mr. Soetoro is responsible for the support of Maya and under Hawaii law Lolo Soetoro continues to be responsible for costs of Barry/Obamas’ education. If you check closely it indicates she will deal with child support later. They also state that the father visits every 3 months. Lolo was living in Indonesia, and working for Shell oil, he did not go to Hawaii every 3 months. But.. since she was living in Indonesia every 3 months visitation wouldn’t be a problem. The most important thing here, is that the Obama divorce lists Obama Sr. as the biological and legal father of Barry/Obama (1964). IN the Soetoro divorce (1980) he is listed as Soetoros’ legal child. He would not be listed at all, if in fact he was not the LEGAL father of Soetoro, as he was already the age of majority. The legal age of majority was 18 Obama was 20 when she filed in Jan 1980. No need to mention him at all, if he was not Lolos’ legal son. Lolo would not have been responsible for the costs of the continuing education of a step-son. Note: that they separated in 1974. she lived in Hawaii from a few months of 74 thu 1976. She returned to Indonesia in 1977 thru 1992, with short term residence in US through out those years. How did she do it, I have to assume she did not tell the US or Indonesia of her citizenship within each country. It was not the technological era we live in today. Plus, her anthropology major, working on her dissertation, and the kind of work she did allowed her the freedom to travel freely between countries with no questions asked.
Reply .January 17, 2009 at 4:34 pm
John Jay
Correction on previous post Soetoro divorce was filed in JUNE 1980. It was the Obama div. that was filed in Jan. 1964. AND no there is no evidence that Ann returned to Hawaii in 1980 or 81. Keep in mind that there was no hearing and she did not appear before a court or judge in Hawaii. Her atty could have been retained by phone, letter or Grandma Dunham. after that papers could have been mailed for signatures. Look at the Appearance and Waiver, he waived his rights to be present and requested they proceed without him, this is signed by Lolo. After this since she lists no property, living apart since 1974,
allows all the visitation Lolo may want, no alimony, requests custody on the basis that “mother and both children US citizens father Indonesian Citizen.” Also “husband living with another woman and wishes to remarry.” No reconciliation for this marriage. They signed the papers on 8/15/80 they were filed with the court on 8/20/80. Fed Ex was all over the world in 1980. By the way, again this woman lied, she claims Maya was a US citizen. Not True. Born in Indonesia 1970, to two Indonesian citizens, she was 10 years old and a statement to renounce citizenship is necessary at the age of 18 thru 21. After that it is assumed you want to keep your Indo. citizenship. AND Ann didn’t lose her Indo citizenship either, unless she renounced it. Or obtained a passport from another country. But, how would Indo. know if she didn’t tell them? Who was going to question this matter? Look at the type of work she did and the fact that she was working on her dissertation in archeology all contributed to no questions asked...”