CIVILITY?

January 23, 2011 | MestaMachine

[MestaMachine]

Oh boy!

[MestaMachine]

Please ping if you think it is worthy of such.

[MestaMachine]

silicited
solicited

It’s early...

[Hardraade]

There’s only one rule that works in war.

Kill them all. By any means possible.

[cripplecreek]

On the civility of the founders.

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to Colonel Smith, Nov. 13, 1787

An insult unpunished is the parent of many others.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to John Jay, Aug. 23, 1785

[screaminsunshine]

The Left never admits it is wrong. They just change the definition to suit their scam du juoir.

[lentulusgracchus]

Sun tzu didn't call it like that. 'Course, his way's the hard way, but then so is refusing to take prisoners.

Flame war in three, two, one .....

[trebb]

Staying above the fray isn't the problem - becoming a doormat is the problem. Our side keeps letting the evil side put them on the defensive instead of just speaking the truth and keeping the faith.

Those that use the "What would Jesus do" argument to push the liberal agenda do not understand Jesus - Jesus and His followers didn't believe in taking away from others becasue you wouldn't do for yourself - my tag line is more along the lines of what Jesus would do.

[MestaMachine]

These were the men who understood tyrants and tyranny. We don’t...precisely because THEY did. We had best learn. Quickly.

[MestaMachine]

“(Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)”

So is the death penalty.

[wita]

OTOH, you cannot take prisoners when the only plot of ground you hold is the beach head, and you are about to be pushed into the sea.

[lentulusgracchus]

The idea that Sarah should have risen above .....

is partly right. She needed to answer them, but she also needed someone to champion her and get down on the floor with these people and roll around with them and bite ears and noses off.

Good example of someone who does that well is Andrew Breitbart. Another is Rush Limbaugh. Another, Sean Hannity. Mark Levin has some current notoriety from his libel suit -- he could take a piece.

Point is, the accusations and lies need to be engaged promptly and fought against -- but Sarah isn't the best person to do it for herself, because of her need to "be presidential".

Does that make sense?

Of course it's necessary to fight the lie -- Karl Rove failed his boss by telling him to ignore the liars and defamers -- but you need proxies to do that, when the office involved is the highest in the land, because the People insist that the persons they entrust with it be dignified. (Unless, of course, he's a noncitizen Communist bisexual mountebank from Man's Country in Chicago. Then all bets are off, 'coz he's so special.)

[lentulusgracchus]

you cannot take prisoners when the only plot of ground you hold is the beach head

Well, as a matter of fact you can, if the Fleet is still with you (if not, you're screwed) ......

But that isn't our or Sarah's situation right now, not at all.

[cripplecreek]

These were the men who understood tyrants and tyranny. We don’t...precisely because THEY did. We had best learn. Quickly.

True enough but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that they weren't men who were itching for a fight. They were men who for the most part loved great britain and considered themselves to be british. Many attempts at reconciliation were made, only to be met with another intolerable insult from britain and the hits just kept coming.

* The Royal Proclamation of 1763 Forbid colonists from crossing the Appalachians.

* The Currency Act, 1764

* The Sugar Act, 1764

* The Quartering Act, 1765

* The Stamp Act, 1765 Precipitated the "Stamp Act Crisis" which fomented rebellion throughout the colonies

* The Declaratory Act, 1766 The English Parliament repealed the Stamp Act, but couldn't leave well enough alone, and adopted this statement of parliamentary supremacy over the British colonies.

* The Townshend Act, 1767

* The Tea Act, 1773

* The Administration of Justice Act, 1774

* The Boston Port Act, 1774

* The Massachusetts Government Act, 1774

* The Quebec Act, 1774

* The Quartering Act, 1774



Franklin's warning issued when questioned by the house of commons in 1766

Q. If the Stamp Act should be repealed, would it induce the assemblies of America to acknowledge the rights of Parliament to tax them, and would they erase their resolutions?

A. No, never!

Q. Are there no means of obliging them to erase those resolutions?

A. None that I know of; they will never do it, unless compelled by force of arms.

Q. Is there a power on earth that can force them to erase them?

A. no power, how great soever, can force men to change their opinions.

I personally find these last questions and answers to be especially interesting given today's globalist attitude that prosperity equals freedom.

Q. What used to be the pride of the Americans?

A. To indulge in the fashions and manufactures of Great Britain.

Q. What is now their pride?

A. To wear their old clothes over again till they can make new ones.

[MestaMachine]

This thread is not just about Sarah. It is about America, Americans, and the “civility” that the left would impose on ALL of us given a half a chance.
Sarah HAS “risen” far, far above anything the left has slung/flung at her. My point is that we ALL need to realize that it doesn’t start or stop with Sarah. She is one face. That is the face they see when they look at ALL of us. But they are diversifying as we speak.

[MestaMachine]

“A. To wear their old clothes over again till they can make new ones.”

Individual choice. Individual responsibility. FREEDOM

[mo]

For the Left, politics is a barroom brawl. To too many kind Americans, it is nothing but a squabble over country Club rules.

FWIW, Tom Delay understood and recognized this...and The Democrats spared no effort throwing him out of Congress ASAP

[humblegunner]

Well said.

[MestaMachine]

It has descended well past the barrom brawl stage. Lest you missed the aftermath of the nassacre in Tuscon. This is gutter advancing into hell.

[napscoordinator]

I think you are a brilliant writer. Do I agree with every word? Not really but 99 percent. But it was really a phenomenal thesis.