Posted on 01/21/2011 3:30:10 PM PST by Squeeky
It is said that history repeats itself and the recent tsunami of confusion that has washed over the Hawaii Governor’s office is proof of this. Gov. Neal Abercrombie pledged that he would personally put an end to the questions of WHERE Obama was born by releasing documentary proof. Which was assumed by most reasonable people to mean the Long From Birth Certificate with verifiable information on it. Much like the infamous statement by former President Clinton, however, we are finding that for Obama Apologists, words sort of mean whatever they need them to mean at the moment.
For refreshers, let us look at President Clinton’s statement:
“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the–if he–if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not–that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement….Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true.”
Uh, yeah! This really wasn’t a hard question. The correct answer would have been, “Yes.”
Now Gov. Neal Abercrombie is having similar problems with what constitutes proof. As an English Internet Article says:
Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there. Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. He told Honolulu’s Star-Advertiser: ‘IT actually exists in the archives, written down,’ he said.
But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama’s birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate. And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
The confusion is particularly perplexing when one considers what the former Hawaii DOH person, Frujinko whatever, said
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
Soooo, she supposedly saw and VERIFIED the original birth certificate was there, but Abercrombie can’t find IT, or maybe he can, but who knows.
Uh, yeah! This really isn’t a hard thing to do. Or will we hear, “I guess it depends on what the meaning of IT is”??? If you have the Long Form Birth Certificate, then produce IT, so there can be a resolution of WHERE Obama was born. Which still DOESN’T resolve the much more important question of WHY it has taken Obama three years or more to do something. Oh wait! Obama STILL isn’t doing anything.
Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter
Occam’s razor - the most obvious probability here is that this thing doesn’t exist in the physical world.
The rest of the machinations is just the BS dancing around that this Left Politicians are using as a distraction.
Doesn’t matter. If Obama does nothing, says nothing on the topic and does not produce the birth certificate, he will still serve out his term as President and that will be that.
Probably, but if Obama was born in Hawaii or Connecticut, then this might be a way for him to save face if he coughs it up. By saying he is just doing to help a old family friend. An old family friend who never saw him when he was born. I think I am going to do a Internet Article called “Obama: The Oldest Man In The World!!!” because there is just like NOBODY who was there when he was born, and here he is a U.S. president!!!
Any particular reason you ‘named’ yourself after a notoriously incompetent attempted assassin?
Just because Neil was in Hawaii when Obama was born, doesn’t mean OBAMA was in Hawaii when Obama was born.
Allow me to continue...
Could (or should) anyone in the US drive a car without possession of the credentials to do so, operate a crane without a license, perform as a Medical Doctor without said visible licensing and credentials?
Hell NO!
But its A-O-K if the guy (who has been on the public record as being from Kenya) performs the duties of the Office of President?
Wouldn’t be OK for us to do these things but in the twisted mind of the Liberal double standard world it makes perfect sense.
For my name, just read my “about” thingy at my SFGR website.
A lot of what you say is true, but like I have asked Obots FOREVAH, if a bumpy birth certificate would work IN COURT, it would also work OUTSIDE court for people but we still haven’t seen it in PUBLIC. Some group has seen it, but who are they??? To me, the real question is more WHY Obama hasn’t released it. I have what I call the KISS reasons which look at, and if you don’t think it is Choice No. 1, then tell me which one you think it is, and how it makes a good president:
1. KENYA. He is born in Kenya.
2. IGNORANT. Obama is too ignorant to think of the simple answer.
3. SNOBBY. Obama thinks Americans are too stupid to believe the REAL THING!
4. SLIMY. Obama thinks it is OK to make some Americans look crazy if it gets him votes.
...Under the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution, if Hawaii says the short form is proof of birth within their state, the other states have to accept that....
BS if there is evidence or indication of fraud other states can investigate, and by the way who has seen his real COLB, any state authorities?
That was a legal non-answer. She did not say that the BC was issued by the state, just that one was on file.
True, and I don’t mean to be a blog pimp or traffic driver person, but the simple answer if there is a question about where you are born is to cough up a birth certificate. And then a Long Form one, if the short form doesn’t convince people:
http://squeekyfromm.wordpress.com/2010/12/05/obama-and-palin-square-off-in-an-intelligence-debate/
“Why would a long form be needed to establish that he was born in Hawaii? The short form lists the place of birth. Under the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution, if Hawaii says the short form is proof of birth within their state, the other states have to accept that.”
Hawaii would not certify the short form that is on the Internet! Also it has been an apparent forgery according to several experts! So where is the Original Long Form? Does it exist?
But if it isn’t the Long Form, then everybody is going to be even more suspicious because Frujinko said this:
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures”
How do you VERIFY the “original birth certificate” if it isn’t there??? Then you have to wonder if Frujinko is lying, or Abercrombie, or what. No, if Abercrombie or Obama don’t cough up a Long Form, then Obama is toast in 2012. He is already toast, but no Long Form, and there will be smoke in the kitchen toast.
It will take time to create one. They are numbered in sequential order. So you have to find a spot in there to insert it. Some other dead persons records have to be removed. Back up files and written achieves have to be altered or lost. Hospital records have to be created. And so on. It will take some time.
The notation that they are referring to is most likely just because the mother applied for a birth certificate years ago. I have read that you could do that if your child was born overseas and one parent was a US citizen. The original records clearly would have indicated that the birth place was not in the US. So details on those records have probably been removed by some means to protect the one.
I think it’s interesting that Abercrombie is a good Democrat, and decided to wade into this issue.
And, the very first legal action taken on this, was made by a Democrat activist named Philip Berg. He was a Hillary supporter in the 08 primaries. But, he also is a good Democrat.
Why do liberals get away with ridicule of “birthers” when it was a good Democrat who started this whole issue over two years ago????
And now we’re supposed to believe that the governor of a state can’t get to the bottom of an issue involving his state’s legal records and vital statistics files?????
There is no birth certificate.
Barack H. Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirement to be president of the U.S.
The rest is a facinating looking glass into the human animal kingdom.
Cats fighting dogs fighting fish fighting birds.
What a joke all humanity has become.
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