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To: dalight
Probably one of the most important voices on this topic to speak out thus far.

I've cleaned the whipped cream off his suit. He's hated.

Still, he mixes with the wrong people and thinks that "sensible regulation" is politically possible. Last I checked, he's still on board with the Gaia hypothesis.

If you are someone who believes that man does have an obligation to husband this planet's resources and that this can be done in a way that is sensible and places the value of human life first, then this is your guy.

No, he's not. There are a host of decent scientists out there doing real work in habitat management, including me. ;-) Really, I've done more hands-on research in native plant habitat restoration and management in the last few years than Mr. Moore has done in a lifetime.

6 posted on 01/20/2011 1:51:07 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I've cleaned the whipped cream off his suit. He's hated.

Still, he mixes with the wrong people and thinks that "sensible regulation" is politically possible. Last I checked, he's still on board with the Gaia hypothesis.

So is Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, et al. He is definitely a moderate but not a leftie. He is hated because he resists their political goals on the left. He would be hated on the right because he still believes in what brought him to GreenPeace in the first place. But, we all come from different places.

I think perhaps you are showing a bit of professional jealousy. I judge his words by my own knowledge of the subject and he is spot on with what he says. I just started looking at his further writings. But, you are welcome to your opinion. I guess you like being a minority of one though.

9 posted on 01/20/2011 2:06:05 PM PST by dalight
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To: Carry_Okie

Good to see you here — I saw the article and was about to ping you.

I like that statement of yours: I’ve cleaned the whipped cream off his suit. He’s hated.

There is probably a very good non-fiction short story in that short couplet.


12 posted on 01/20/2011 2:13:26 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: Carry_Okie
There are a host of decent scientists out there doing real work in habitat management, including me. ;-) Really, I've done more hands-on research in native plant habitat restoration and management in the last few years than Mr. Moore has done in a lifetime.

Letting land lay fallow is a practice that has been part of "the knowledge" of how farming is done for the 50+ years I have been on the planet. The basic idea of a Sabbath for the land is sound but this cannot be done all at one time for a number of reasons so the Biblical prescription never seriously has been implemented over any large area as it seems to imply that this is to be done all at once just like humans observe the Sabbath. I am sure this is not what you are recommending in your book, and I am sure you are a contributor in you specific field

I just don't see your point for attacking someone who is telling the truth because you feel that you have a better version of the truth. When lies are all people know, then folks need to find the truth in ways they can understand it.

Your suggestions may be very successful, but you are first insisting that they accept your frame of reference before considering your ideas. This is a sure ticket to staying marginalized.

16 posted on 01/20/2011 2:26:26 PM PST by dalight
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