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To: dalight
So we are left with your complaint about his friends. Which friend or friends of his are so disturbing to you?

He came here to Santa Cruz at the behest of Bud McCrary of Big Creek Lumber Co, but I'd known him by email considerably before that. He'd read and commented on some of Natural Process before it was published. Not long after he left Greenpeace and published his first book, Greenspirit - Trees Are the Answer (I have a signed copy) he was meeting and collaborating with major timber corporations of the Pacific Northwest. Effectively, he was making a living promoting his defection. I do not remember specific names because that was about 2002, but I do recall that some of those very companies are mixed up in the ISO 14000 series of UN regulations. He is a big fan of corporate landownership instead of individual stewardship. Now, a lot of people think that is a good thing, but I'll tell you that large global interests are some of the prime drivers behind the kind of regulatory corruption I wrote about in my first book, Natural Process. For similar reasons, it should not surprise you that the California timber market has been dominated by the two corporations that have always had their representatives on the California Board of Forestry (Simpson and SPI). They write and approve rules that make things tough for smaller concerns, economies of scale in the paperwork business being what they are.

Paperwork doesn't do a damned thing for a forest. Focusing only on trees does not a forest make. From the technical side, the complexities of restoration do not lend themselves to large scale ownership. That is just how things are, and it is the essence of where I disagree with Mr. Moore.

24 posted on 01/20/2011 3:08:44 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Paperwork doesn't do a damned thing for a forest. Focusing only on trees does not a forest make. From the technical side, the complexities of restoration do not lend themselves to large scale ownership. That is just how things are, and it is the essence of where I disagree with Mr. Moore.

As land ownership is still available to the individual for as small a plot as you would like, nothing prevents someone from attempting to compete with the mega-corporations. If they are less efficient, then they will be gutted by the competition. To the extent that these folks use regulations to provide effective barriers to entry by competition, the regulation and the regulators need to be challenged in the courts and the legislatures. However, if the reason the Mega-Corps are in ascendancy is because of economies of scale and coordination, then your position is no different than any other socialist shaking his fist at the rich man for owning so much.

29 posted on 01/20/2011 4:29:53 PM PST by dalight
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