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1 posted on 01/04/2011 5:28:32 AM PST by joeclarke
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To: joeclarke
The beautiful Caroline Heldman...

The stench of socialist crap covered with chocolate?

2 posted on 01/04/2011 5:36:07 AM PST by PGalt
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To: joeclarke

I say if she wants to covet other’s property, than take it by force. Of course, like most libs, she would have some jack booted thugs do her dirty work.


3 posted on 01/04/2011 5:39:57 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: joeclarke
Yep, well that philosophy inevitably leads to an entitlement mentality, as evidenced by: ”Groups” of “youths” Cause “Tumult”

Feel free to join the "youths" in the "tumult," on your next shopping trip, Prof. Heldman.
4 posted on 01/04/2011 5:50:06 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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The woman is a complete leftist WHACK JOB! That is not libel, its true.

She doesn't want any kids because of overpopulation.

She didn't just NOT get married, she "legally domiciled" with an ex-student, 10 years her younger.

Thinks no one should make over $75,000 yr/household.

Thinks that there should be a 100 percent tax on any non-electric/non-hybrid vehicle (90-100k Suburban anyone?)

This "lady" is one of the truely lost.

6 posted on 01/04/2011 5:54:24 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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Lib professors are so dam* tiring. I know one who is a lifelong friend. She was OK back in the day, but grew more
and more Stalinist as the years went by. She got into a
tenure fight at her state university. She LOST.

Now shes a “lecturer” at a private college and doesn’t like the “country club” atmosphere.

Hehe.....


7 posted on 01/04/2011 5:56:24 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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Here is a post I did last week, that got alot of positive responses via thread and e-mail:

“I don’t care how much you make. It’s none of my business, or anyone else’s”.

As we moved farther and farther away from biblical values, this attitude has also gotten farther and farther away.

The Bible tells us we shouldn’t covet. And YET “Christians” look at what others have all the time. Unfortunately, most “Christians” seem to think coveting ONLY MEANS wanting what someone else has. Whats the difference between, wanting to take something of someone elses for yourself, and wanting to take something of someone elses so that they don’t have it, just like you?

When we WERE a Christian nation, or at least God fearing, people would look at what they had as GODS PROVIDENCE. Because of that outlook about themselves, it also becomes natural to view that in others. That what THEY HAVE is also Gods providence.

We viewed God as SOVEREIGN, and that he could bless those he chose to bless.

We also lived our lives and viewed life through a Biblical perspective. The Bible talks about wealth and money/materials more than any other single subject, besides Gods love toward us.

The Bible gives us principles for aquiring wealth and using wealth. First and foremost it talks about wisdom. Aquiring it and THEN using it. Likewise, it talks about a fool and his folly.

Today, “churches” focus on a “social gospel”, on the works of a “social justice”, and yet, conveniently leave out ALL the verses pertaining to wise living.

What would happen to our nation, if the churches alone, would get back to preaching and living the ENTIRE Word Of God, instead of todays feel good pablum?

Instead of preaching entire sermons of the rich man, they should be preaching entire sermons on wisdom and folly, and the fruits there of. They should also be preaching on the sovereignty of God.

Instead, we have people in churches that no longer preach of Gods sovereignty, but on ones rights and entitlements. That the rich man (ALL rich men) choose to hoard their wealth, and that they have an “obligation” to the poor. And thus, since the rich man has an “obligation” to the poor, the “poor” see that as an entitlement.

We look at what others have, and “appear” not to be doing, but fail to look at ourselves. Or if we do, we have a overvalued sense of self importance. We view our righteousness based on OUR value, and our view or value of others righteousness. Instead we should be looking strictly at ourselves against the righteousness of God, and HIS standard for OUR OWN lives.

When we look at our own lives compared against Gods standard, we have no energy (or desire) to look at OTHERS lives, and whether they are living up to Gods standard.

Instead, we would much rather look at others, and look at their failures, or even more so, OUR perception of their “perceived” failures. We no longer use Gods standards, except of course when it comes to comparing OTHERS.

Oh well...enough of my sermon :)

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The whole problem with the “social gospel/ social justice” movement is that it takes TRUE focus off of God, and puts it on ourselves. Onto the WORKS that MAN does, and not onto THE GOOD NEWS of CHRIST.

The TRUE Gospel (Good News) is offensive. It tells us that ALL MEN are fallen, sinful, horrible beings. That no matter how much good work we do, its filthy and worthless.

It also tells us that there is ONLY one way to God, and that is HIS way. NONE of our ways are good enough.

That is the GOSPEL part.

Now the SOCIAL part is tricky. As christians, are we to help the poor? Most definetly. BUT...BUT...That IS NOT to be our main focus while on earth. We are to tell the world and show the world of Gods love for us, and tell them the Good News of how we all CAN come to God, through the attoning sacrifice of Christ.

But the problem that “christians” who fall into the “social gospel” camp fail to realize is that the Church was called to take care of its own. When Paul instructed the NT church to take care of widows and the poor, it was to be the widows and poor in the church. The Church was so help others in other churches as well.

Next, what the “social gospel/ social justice” crowd fail at, is seeing Gods SOVEREIGNTY. And that is what I was pointing out in my FReepmail. When WE look for “social JUSTICE”, the first thing one must realize is that if MAN is to create “social JUSTICE” that must mean there is INJUSTICE. Which, of course, there is. BUT...what exactly is “injustice”. Where do we allow Gods soveREIGNTY to REIGN?

Our society blindly sees a rich man and a poor man, and screams injustice. Never ONCE looking towards a sovereign God, or allowing God to be sovereign. Why is the rich man rich? Why is the poor man poor? We don’t care if the rich man diligently followed Gods precepts for life and material. We don’t care if the poor man foolishly disregrded them. We take both men and put them under the blanket of what WE call JUSTICE.

By doing this we remove Gods sovereignty, of him blessing whom HE CHOOSES to bless, or blessing those he finds faithful.

With that, all I can think of is the story of Job. When I think of those who scream and wring their hands about “social justice”, I hear Satan confronting God on Job and his faithfulness being tied to his blessings. The “social justice” crowd are no different. They also point to the blessings of the faithful as a reason for being faithful. THEY ALSO infer that the poor would be faithful if so blessed.

In the beginning of Job, Job is ALREADY a blessed man, who found favor with God.

How would have todays “social justice” crowd viewed pre trial Job? He was already blessed. Obviously more than most around him.

How would the “social justice” crowd have viewed mid trial Job? I’d suggest the same way Jobs “friends” did.

And lastly, how would the “social justice” crowd have viewed Job post trial?

Post trial, God DOUBLED everything that Job had before his trials, and he was already blessed by God then. We also know that God took exception to Jobs faithfulness, so I think its safe to say that Job was probably a very generous man already.

So where does the story of Job fit into “the social gospel”? How does the “social gospel” fit with Gods sovereignty and blessings?

When I hear the terms “social justice” or “social gospel” I hear Satan accusing. Accusing the BLESSED FOLLOWERS of Christ, of not DOING enough. That their blessings aren’t blessings at all and should be disgarded.

There is a fine line between having and hoarding and giving and disgarding, and the only way to traverse this is through prayer and faithfulness. Which is what God wants from us in the first place, in everything we do. Its what brings blessings in the first place, and is whats needed to fully appreciate AND use those blessings.

And it CANNOT be dictated by others (society).


9 posted on 01/04/2011 6:03:22 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: joeclarke

Pretty until she talks. That’s when she becomes a hag.


12 posted on 01/04/2011 6:08:35 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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...her entire repertoire consists of demanding that people who have money be forced to offer assistance to those who have not...

Ah, those little things call life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... mean they so little to her?

14 posted on 01/04/2011 6:17:08 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Demanding that people who have money be forced to offer assistance.
Obama&Co. have been working on it for the last two years and two more to go.When everyone is poor they will be happy.


18 posted on 01/04/2011 7:06:54 AM PST by Vaduz
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Remind me to avoid her and anywhere she teaches ... like the plague. =.=


19 posted on 01/04/2011 7:16:43 AM PST by cranked
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I find it ironic, this....woman???....who makes her living by supposedly teaching, the children of people who make over $75k a year, and who herself probably makes over $75k, thinks people should be limited to only $75k a year.

I wonder if she's aware that that would probably affect all her co...workers??? and her bosses.

Not to mention that if everybody were limited to $75k the need or ability to afford college would virtually cease.

How many students would quit school if all they could make in a future job was $75k? I imagine law schools and med schools would instantly close up. Imagine a Dr. going to school for 8-10 years after high school, and dropping $250k-$500k for school and then being told he can only make $75k. A Dr might be in surgery 12-16 hours, with the weight of the world on his shoulders, as one slip can damage a person for life, and for this he's "rewarded" with the pay equivilant of middle management somewhere.

Like the saying goes:
Those who can, do; those who can't, teach

This woman has no useful purpose in life. She has no worthwhile abilities with no useful experience. She has nothing to offer society, and begrudges those who do, the means in which to live by their own means. But feels qualified, through no experience, to tell others how they should must live. (Much like Obama)

Imagine a farmer being told he can only make $75k in a year. What incentive would there be, to work past midnight to harvest crops, when your limit has been met? Why farm 1-2,000 acres, when a few hundred would do? How would a farmer buy a $160,000 tractor or $250,000 combine, if all he were allowed to make was $75k. Friends of mine just bought a 200 acre farm. It cost just over $1 mil.

Who would buy a McDonalds (or a lot of other businesses) if all they could make was $75k.

Maybe she has a nice restaurant or store she really likes. That would probably go out of business, because the disposable income of the majority of the people who frequent it would disappear.

Why would Joe The Carpenter hire any more help? The moment he made $75k there would be no need to do any more work. How many carpenters would not have work, because there would not be enough people with extra cash to afford to have things done?

How many small businesses would shrink over night, simply because the additional labor would bring in additional income over $75k? Why ever expand a business? Why ever invest?

22 posted on 01/04/2011 1:56:38 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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Judge Napolitano has her on his show often, I feel sorry for her every time she opens her mouth. She is in way over her head on his panels.


23 posted on 01/04/2011 2:28:16 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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The current model of higher education. Also, flowing steadily into K-12. "Long live Gramscism!!!"


27 posted on 01/05/2011 4:33:35 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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