You quote Hawaiian Governor Lingle as follows:
And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact.
Well, that’s NOT what the news release said, nor was it a “news release” it was a “statement release”, see following. The pertinent article excerpt is as follows:
Obama’s Birth Certificate Verified By State
Health Department Receives Multiple Requests For Copies
POSTED: 12:12 pm HST October 31, 2008
UPDATED: 1:26 pm HST November 1, 2008
HONOLULU — The state’s Department of Health director on Friday released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama birth certificate. ...
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record,” DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.
Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said.
There’s really no swearing to any fact, only a official statement of only one fact, that there is something “on record” about Obama’s original birth certificate. It doesn’t even have to mean, read carefully, that there is any original birth certificate. The official statement is so tersely worded and lacking detail that even a entry in a log of records indicating that there was no original birth certificate would satisfy it.
In an interview — which is not an official statement, and certainly not under oath, Governor Lingle is putting words in other’s mouths — hearsay. Indirect hearsay. Weak, not conclusive, very poor evidence. Courts and hearing boards could not accept it. Why should we?
And psychologically, Lingle’s need to use verbal reinforcements to assert the “fact” nature is troubling. In underlined those in the excerpt.
Note how the reinforcers bracket the reference “born at Kapi’olani Hospital”. Thus I suspect that statement is NOT a fact.
Dr. Fukino also issued a follow up news release which you didn’t quote:
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
You are also wrong about both statements not being official news releases of the state of Hawai’i. They most clearly and certainly are:
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
How big do the words NEWS RELEASE have to be on official state letterhead under the Governor’s name for you to see them?
Gee!...Since it is soooooooo above board and transparent why doesn't Mr. Obama just promptly prove ( with the best evidence) that he is indeed a natural born citizen and has,( and never has had)), any allegiance to another nation?
It is **SIMPLE** to prove one’s natural born citizenship. American “serfs” ( those “little” people) do it all the time for many reasons.
Fundamentally...It is very SIMPLE!! Obama has gone to considerable effort and expense ( some of that is tax dollars) to prevent proving that he is a natural born citizen.
A **real** American president would be HONORED to prove with the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and does not, and never had allegiance to another nation. He would be especially **HONORED** to do that for the military.
How can Obama’s stonewalling on his eligibilty be good for military morale?
Just yesterday I read a Free Republic headline that, on average, an American soldier is **KILLED** in Afghanistan every 18 hours. I'd say that those men and women and their families deserve to **KNOW** that the man sending these soldiers to their deaths is indeed a legitimate president and not a usurper!
jamese777, Obama is losing this BIG TIME in the one court that matters the most: The Court of Public Opinion.
Every day more and more Americans are concluding that Obama can NOT prove he is a natural born citizen because is is NOT a natural born citizen.
But not foolish about the other points.
It was interesting to see on what point you hung most of your answer!
In any case your original Lingle quote was from 2008 and Fukimo, MD, did not release his statement until 2009. So she was not referring to that.
And even the 2009 Fukino's statement is less terse, but it's slightly greater verbosity is inscrutable and ambiguous. He says he has seen , "original vital records maintained on file" by Hawaii DOH. What are those? We do not know. They could be merely a statement noting a birth by a family member or related party, or something else -- who knows? He doesn't say notice from a hospital, nor even the word "certificate". What are the kinds of things that Hawaii DOH has file as "original viral records"? Do you know? I do not. Maybe Butterdezillion does!
But Fukino, MD, then makes a professional miscue, perhaps even a breach of professional ethics. What is that? Well, I know that I can't give people medical advice posing as a professional. But how can MD Fukino then give LEGAL advice when he asserts that Obama is a "natural-born citizen"? In context that's a unique term of art in Constitutional Law. On what professional basis has Md Fukino made such a bold statement of legal fact determination? On what authority?
If the original vital record is the mere word of a grandparent MD Fukino might have been able to justify -- to himself and cronies -- that by that alone he could make his assertion. In any case, as I understand Hawaiian records law, his statement created an opportunity to request an explanation of the basis for his bold claim of "natural-born citizen" status. What do you know of that?