Posted on 01/03/2011 2:35:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Well, so there is a late August Extension session! Still 8/19/61 is a Saturday. 8/23/2010 is a Monday.
Also, the classes on the transcript end in December, not September.
Still, it seems NOTHING in this case is fully known. Fog is everywhere.
I think the Obama crackup will come before the 2012 elections. It’s been revealed that he rode on AF1 (on average) every other day of his first two years. Yet Gibbs said Obama has been ‘trapped in DC’ and frustrated over not being able to get out more. He also said Obama would be out of DC more over the next two years than he was for the first two.
Now that seems hard to believe for anybody who’s been following Obama’s travels, golf, vacations, joy rides, parties, basketball, etc. But what I’m sensing is that the handlers see a meltdown coming. They will try to stave it off, but I don’t think they will succeed.
Obama has never stuck with anything longer than two years in his life. Two years seems to be his outer limit—and he appears to have reached it yet again. I got a very weird vibe from not only the pics released from HI, but also from the draconian restrictions placed on the press. I think Obama’s handlers know they’re dealing with a looming crisis, and it’s just going to get worse from here.
All just my opinion, of course. But I know a little something about extreme Malignant Narcissists, and I can say this. Four years under the microscope in a ‘trapped’ situation will wreak havoc with the best of them. And Obama never was the best.
Well, sport, to any rational person, that's definitive. People can't get divorced unless they can prove they were married in the first place.
And there have been claims by Kenyan officials,
Off-the-cuff remarks in political speaches by memebers of parliament who have no special knowledge of the matter don't count as evidence.
American and African reporters,
Reporters get facts wrong, and as far as I know, all of these stories were corrected.
and perhaps informal setting statements reported of Michelle Obama, Obama’s Kenyan “aunt” and maybe Obama himself, that make claims of his being born in Africa
Neither Obama, nor his aunty, nor his wife have ever said anything to this effect. These are all just unsubstantiated birther rumors.
The short length of the supposed marriage weights to its non-existence,
Why? Most marriages that end in divorce are short, and most marriages end in divorce.
as does Stanley Ann’s late August 1961 appearance in Seattle while Senior remained studying and partying in Hawaii.
Why? Plenty of young brides run away from their husbands after they realize they made a big mistake.
The photos from that period testify as to his charms on women, which also weighs against a marriage.
No it does not. Plenty of womanizers marry and then cheat on their wives.
Where are the photos of a pregnant wife? Aren’t alpha-males like Senior proud in their ability to procreate?
Where are the photos of a pregnant Barbara Bush? Are you now going to suggest she wasn't really married to Bush senior? After all, official documentation of their marriage hasn't been released.
When exactly DID Stanley Ann arrive on the west coast, either in Seattle US, or Vancouver Canada?
Some time in late August.
Where’s the evidence of her being in Hawaii anytime during the summer or spring of 1961? As far as I know, nothing.
Well, for starters there's the certification of live birth, photographs of which have been made public.
To be most judicious to the evidences and statements (none under oath) we have on the matter of Obama’s birth and first few months of life: We do not know where Obama was born.
Yes we do. There's the certification of live birth, which is an official state document that certifies the facts of his birth and is good in any court of law.
We also have statements by Hawaii government officials, while not made under oath, were still made in an official capacity.
We do not know if his mom was really married,
Yes we do. The divorce decree proves it.
We do not know where Stanley Ann was in the spring and summer of 1961.
We know she was in Hawaii in August 1961, from the COLB. We also know her husband was taking classes in Hawaii during the spring.
The determination of the facts of those circumstances simply cannot be honestly said to be able to make.
Yes it can, unless you are a birther determined to ignore all the evidence.
EFS wasn't around in the 1960's. I believe the program was started in the 1990's.
Besides, bvw already posted confirmation from the University that the 8/19/61 start date on the transcript is a typo. Look up the thread.
As a note, I would like to thank you for the first few words in your posting where you said, "It wouldn't surprise me if we were to learn some day that..."
It is most helpful to all of us when those who post do so with a disclaimer first, stating that they have no idea what really happened, have no evidence or firsthand knowledge and that what follows is pure speculation, conjecture and guesswork. I wish everyone on this crazy issue was thoughtful and honest enough to do this.
WND I believe had stanley ann’s transcrpts from washington state online. they showed that she registered for class something like 10 to 2 weeks after the reported birth of her son.
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