I truly don't understand what "truth" has to do with that question at all. But after thinking about it, I'm now not so sure I really oppose the child of a U.S. citizen born in the U.S. becoming President. I do think that someone born in the U.S. of two non-citizen parents should not be eligible to become President. I still don't think that's consistent with the 14th Amendment, though. Which is why an Amendment is probably in order.
What does concern me is the scenario I described where a U.S. serviceman marries a foreign gal, and they have a child born in the U.S. before the wife's naturalization is finalized. I'm reluctant to say that child should not be considered a citizen at birth, because I have some former Marine buddies who did marry foreign brides and have children here.
Are you a believer in this republic, or are you a cultural marxist seeking to destroy our republic? Stand for something, clearly, Bruce. Put your cards on the table.
Wow. You suspect I'm a "cultural marxist" because my legal interpretation of the 14th Amendment is different from yours, despite everything I've said about Obama here and in other threads? I would say that's surprising, but unfortunately, it's not.
You know, it is people who share your activist view of Constitutional law, who are willing to twist the plain meaning of the Constitution to suit their own political ideology, who have done the most damage to this country. You're on the same side as Lawrence Tribe, Sonya Sotamayor, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and their ilk. You're just not well-read enough to know it.
Have a...day.
Bruce - But after thinking about it...I do think...I still don’t think...
Daisy - Glad to see you are thinking! :)
Bruce - Wow. You suspect I’m a “cultural marxist” because my legal interpretation of the 14th Amendment is different from yours...
Daisy - I didn’t say I suspect, I said clarify yourself...now you have. Good.
Bruce - despite everything I’ve said about Obama here and in other threads?
Daisy - Sorry, I haven’t been avidly following all your comments on all the threads. Only context I have of you is this thread. You have made negative inferences on this thread about Obama, yes -while at the same time!- calling those who question the birth certificate BIRTHERS. Seems like if you wanted people on this thread to respect your ideas you’d use non-descriptive terms for them. Just sayin’.
Bruce - You know, it is people who share your activist view of Constitutional law...
Daisy - My activist view? I wish you actually knew me. You’d get a real kick out of that statement. I have not claimed to be a lawyer, to know law, to be well acquainted with a lawyer, or to have read law books...I have read pros and cons on this subject since it’s first discovery, and have over time come to believe what I believe. The only activism I am interested in is preserving this republic to whatever extent I may be able to help, admittedly limited.
Bruce - You’re just not well-read enough to know it.
Daisy - :) You’re on to me! No, I am not well-read on legal matters or how to debate legal matters. Congratulations! You win! So I guess then you know, being the incredibly well educated person that you are, that there is a big difference between a “not well-read” person and a person “willing to twist the plain meaning of the Constitution to suit their own political ideology.”
I didn’t realize that caring about this country and not wanting it to be subverted by the likes of those who would seek to give Obama an out by “plainly interpreting” the constitution without taking into consideration the context in which the “plain interpretation” appears (ie. historical context and understanding that persons of the time surrounding the text in question had of it) were political ideologues.
My grandmother always said, “there’s more than one way to skin a cat!” This -common- phrase may be too colloquial for you, but I am SURE by your posts on this thread you know how to practice its meaning.
Bruce - Have a...day.
Daisy - You wish me one added day to my life? How generous of you! Thank you! I’ll go one better, Mr. Bruce! Have a GREAT day!