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To: Twinkie
If you like spicy sauce on your burgers a good secret is to go to combo fish & chips/burger stands because a lot of the secret sauces at those places will be spicy. You can never go wrong at the places that have separate Order and Pick up windows. In Tulsa, the place to go is Ralph' Fish & Burger Shack:

RalphsFishAndBurgerShackMenu

Ralph's Fish & Burger Shack

RalphsFishAndBurgerShack

I always feel safe in places like this since the owners are typically self made men who are fully prepared to defend their place of business:

RalphsFishAndBurgerShackDonGibson

Business Owner Stops Robbery With A Gun

96 posted on 01/01/2011 2:56:06 PM PST by wizkid (俄)
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To: wizkid
While on my rant about the spicy hamburger secret sauces at fish and chip stands and maverick owners; I must confess my first true love, Pete's Fish & Chips in Phoenix where I grew up:

PetesFishChipsLogo

Here is a shot of the original stand:

PetesFishChipsStand

Here is one of his first real location:

PetesFishChips

The place generates loyalties so strong that employee even bury themselves in their Pete's Uniform:

Pete's Fish and Chips to be named after longtime manager

"Ruth Walden loved Pete's Fish and Chips so much she was buried in the restaurant's shirt and jacket and asked that people wear the same to her funeral.

The longtime Tolleson resident, who died in May at age 79, worked as a manager at the restaurant for 57 years. So it seems only fitting the owners decided to name a future renovated location in Tolleson the Ruth Walden Super Pete's.

Pete Grant was definitely a self made man:

Grant was stricken with malaria while serving in the Philippines during World War II, and doctors told the Indiana native that relocating to a warmer climate would help.

"He always said, 'They gave me two choices, Egypt and Phoenix, and since I didn't speak Egyptian, I came to Phoenix,' " Adams said.

With that decision, Adams said the Valley got its first fast-food restaurant: Sportsfair Chips, the name a nod to the golf driving range nearby.

"He bought a bag of potatoes, fish fillets and a cooker, and built that little wooden stand. It didn't even have running water. They had to use a neighbor's hose," Adams said.

Unfortunatel for Pete , he was caught without his gun at home and murdered for his coin collection. One of his hobbies was scanning the store change for rare and silver coins.

More details can be found here:

For Pete's sake, fish and chips stands celebrating 60 years

My brother and I were obessed with his spicy sauce used for both the fish and Pete's "Monster" Burger. Here is a good shot of the sauce on a seafood combo platter (Sorry but I could not find a good Monster Burger picture):

PetesSeafoodComboPlatter

One day we peeked in the back door and caught Pete making his secret sauce. It appeared to be 2/3 ketchup and 1/3 El Pato Sauce

PetesElPatoTomatoSauce

It is a great sauce to use on a lot of things. I love it on eggs in the morning.

Do not be put off by some reviews for Pete's. These are usually from anglophile snobs and people from back East with their knickers in a twist because Pete's does not have authentic British Fish and Chips with malt vinegar. Pete's was never intended to be an english chips shop. It offered value food to a fish starved Phoenix in the 1940's.

Pete Grant was quite a businessman. He did not even allow his employees to use trash bags. They used to line their garbage cans with old newspaper. Like most people who survived the depression, he knew how to stretch a dime and provide value.

127 posted on 01/01/2011 4:03:00 PM PST by wizkid (俄)
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To: wizkid

Ur links is broken! Sheesh!


197 posted on 01/01/2011 11:54:25 PM PST by cynwoody
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