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Krauthammer: 'People Are Talking about American Decline – Don't Believe a Word of It'
Daily Caller ^ | 12/24/10 | eff Poor

Posted on 12/24/2010 2:58:30 PM PST by Nachum

Over the last few years, with an economy in decline and the rise of certain developing nations, there have been murmurs of the end of American exceptionalism throughout the media.

Don’t believe a word of it, says syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer.

On the Christmas Eve edition of Fox News Channel’s “Happening Now,” Krauthammer was asked to reflect on the last two years. He explained there was similar rhetoric about the nation’s decline at the end of the 1970s.

“Well, I think this is mostly a reflection of the recession,” Krauthammer said. “The mood of the country going back 20, 30, 40 years, almost always reflects the state of the economy. The late ‘70s was a period of malaise. People were saying oh, the American era is over. The big dictatorships in the world are going to dominate us. That was a reflection of the terrible economic conditions, the stagnation and the inflation late ‘70s.”

With the 1980s, however, the economy came back and the calls of the end of the so-called Pax Americana went by the wayside. He predicted the same would happen this time around.

“When the economy recovered in the ‘80s there was a morning in America,” he continued. “So I would not over-read the move. People are talking about American decline — don’t believe a word of it.

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To: Nachum

Is he paralyzed from the neck down? He never moves and is always in the same identical position while gasping for air like Christopher Reeves always did? But he is sounding more and more like he is on Obama Koolaid!


21 posted on 12/24/2010 4:16:09 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: devere
Farm equipment (Caterpillar and Deere). Farm commodities.

CAT is moving a lot of production (and technology) to India. Naturally farm commodity prices will fall as Indian and Chinese agriculture modernizes, while diesel and fertilizer will go through the roof. So it won't be long before America is unable even to feed itself.

I don't know what the K-man was smoking when he said America is not a nation in decline. The rot is undeniable and accelerating. Higher education is the next bubble to burst as more and more realize that a degree is worthless in a world where your job, possibly whole field, will be moved offshore to benefit the balance sheets. The very idea of being an American is being systematically devalued and undermined. The globalists are going to face one hell of a day of reckoning when/if the American people ever wake up to what is going on.
22 posted on 12/24/2010 4:35:06 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: devere

> What are we #1 in making any more?

I also would add:

1. Agriculture (food)
2. Information Technology (computers, software, telecom)
3. Bio-technology
4. Pharmaceuticals
5. Health care (surgical tools and techniques, equipment, etc.)
6. I believe US is the world’s most efficient manufacturer
7. Financial services

Probably much more that I can not recall at this time.


23 posted on 12/24/2010 4:39:33 PM PST by bluejay
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To: devere
"What are we #1 in making any more?"

Don't forget TRUCKS and network-computing software of every sort. The actual EQUIPMENT is made in Asia.

24 posted on 12/24/2010 4:42:14 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Nachum

The downsizing that is taking place now should have began happening in 2000 when it was obvious that the manufacturing sector was shifting. I do think that we aren’t headed to third world status yet but “normal” is gone for good (and for bad).

The economy will rebound hopefully with more efficient government, and a more vibrant economy, but unlike the early ‘80’s is there are no niche industries (auto industry, paper, rubber, airlines, etc.) to bail us out.


25 posted on 12/24/2010 4:46:48 PM PST by erlayman
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To: bluejay
6. I believe US is the world’s most efficient manufacturer
7. Financial services

LOL! We have better money printing presses than anyone. The Germans could do better, but apparently they remember Weimar and have backed away from the edge, thinking their is some virtue in sound money, which used to be a conservative principle, but certainly not one much followed by the subscribers to this forum.

As for manufacture, we long ago lost it. Their are few companies that combine design and quality production anymore. Apple is one, but they don't manufacture in the US.

26 posted on 12/24/2010 4:49:21 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: devere
Software? moving offshore.

Only for offshore applications. To operate in America as a software developer, you MUST be atuned to American customs and preferably IN America.

Signed, 22 year developer veteran.

27 posted on 12/24/2010 4:49:44 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: bluejay

“6. I believe US is the world’s most efficient manufacturer”

That is hard to accept considering our huge trade deficit.

2. Information Technology (computers, software, telecom) — Rapidly moving or moved overseas! Software, hardware, everything.

Sorry, but your optimism is unconvincing to me. We’re not dead yet, but we are in trouble. Congress for many years has slavishly done the bidding of multinational corporations who favor off-shoring at the expense of highly paid American workers. It’s not inevitable, as Germany as proved. But our government has unfortunately been disloyal to its own citizens.


28 posted on 12/24/2010 4:56:10 PM PST by devere
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To: AndyJackson

> LOL! We have better money printing presses than anyone. The Germans could do better, but apparently they remember Weimar and have backed away from the edge, thinking their is some virtue in sound money, which used to be a conservative principle, but certainly not one much followed by the subscribers to this forum.

I believe you are referring to the government. That has nothing at all in common with financial services, which are delivered by private entities.

Regarding US manufacturing:

1. Change in manufacturing output: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/prod4.t01.htm

2. Top 12 manufacturing countries: http://investing.curiouscatblog.net/2008/09/23/top-manufacturing-countries-in-2007/

While you may chose to believe any thing you like, actual statistics do not support your view.


29 posted on 12/24/2010 4:59:01 PM PST by bluejay
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To: Nachum

You can’t live in the D.C. area and not become a swamp monster. Very few can live there and remain “normal”.


30 posted on 12/24/2010 5:01:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: devere

> “6. I believe US is the world’s most efficient manufacturer”

In the previous post, i have provided 2 links that not only support this statement but also demonstrate it to be too pessimistic - US is not only the world’s most efficient manufacturer, we also are the world’s largest.

> 2. Information Technology (computers, software, telecom) — Rapidly moving or moved overseas! Software, hardware, everything.

Low cost, low productivity, low expertise, low paying functions are moving over seas. High margin, high paying jobs are staying right here and more are being created every day. Until Obama introduced his very special anti-Midas touch to the economy, unemployment was at 6% (or less). And it will be there again once the Obama economy is done.


31 posted on 12/24/2010 5:06:17 PM PST by bluejay
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To: bluejay

Making burgers at McDonald’s is considered mfg work to the BLS.


32 posted on 12/24/2010 5:11:34 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bluejay
Low cost, low productivity, low expertise, low paying functions are moving over seas. High margin, high paying jobs are staying right here and more are being created every day.

I wish I could believe that, but I have a well placed contact at one of the largest tech companies on the planet who says otherwise. The source indicates that they are offshoring everything they can including R&D. In addition to their own efforts, another major line of business for them is helping other US companies follow suit. What is happening is something on a scale America has not seen before. Engineering, programming, legal, radiology--high expertise fields all--are going offshore. Anything that doesn't require your physical presence in America is at risk, because someone, somewhere can do it at a wage you would starve on. In reality it is precisely the low-value work that has a future in America, because the savings in moving it offshore is minimal. Garbage truck drivers, burger flippers, and nail salon employees are probably safe, except they'll have to compete with illegal aliens.
33 posted on 12/24/2010 5:30:13 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: bluejay

“Low cost, low productivity, low expertise, low paying functions are moving over seas. High margin, high paying jobs are staying right here and more are being created every day.”

You’re talking about an industry in which I have worked for over 30 years, and I know personally that you are completely mistaken. My own employer no longer hires software developers and data base administrators in the USA, just in other countries. Maybe that will change after the dollar collapses further, but that’s where we are now.

I wonder what else you are completely wrong about?


34 posted on 12/24/2010 5:37:04 PM PST by devere
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To: HerrBlucher
Yes, indeed. Considering America's imploding budget deficit, continued increase in legal and illegal immigration, rampant increases in immoratlity, and more and more spoiled, pampered little Marxists, we have much to fear.
35 posted on 12/24/2010 5:54:06 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: Nachum
With Obama’s ratings lower than Bush I think Obama is almost gone. When the Republicans finally make steps that are favorable to business the economy will come roaring back. The rest of the world will say they did it again.
36 posted on 12/24/2010 6:33:47 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Nachum
Gross debt as a percentage of GDP was 35% back in 1980. Today it's around 80% with more and more government spending to follow.

Krauthammer thinks happy days are around the corner all because we get to keep our puny tax cut.

Charles Krauthammer is a complete and utter idiot.

37 posted on 12/24/2010 6:35:15 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: bluejay
I believe you are referring to the government. That has nothing at all in common with financial services, which are delivered by private entities.

It is so nice to see that there are so-called adults who still believe in Santa Claus. Touching really.

38 posted on 12/24/2010 6:49:00 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: central_va
Making burgers at McDonald’s is considered mfg work to the BLS.

No it isn't.

39 posted on 12/24/2010 7:11:45 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: bwc2221

I agree...I’m always suspect of former high profile Democrats, like Charles and Michael Medved. I knew I was a conservative at age 18, the minute I stepped on an ultra liberal college campus.


40 posted on 12/24/2010 8:00:38 PM PST by teg_76
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