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The 1911 Sucks (Reasoned Argument)
yankeegunnuts.com ^ | 20 December, 2010 | GunNutmegger

Posted on 12/23/2010 5:29:16 AM PST by marktwain

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To: OKSooner

The .38 proved inadequate to stop sword wielding Philippine (Moro) muslims run amok hopped up on drugs and/or religious jihadi fever.

The 1911 was designed to fix this problem.


41 posted on 12/23/2010 6:05:25 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 700 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: triumphant values
Winchester Model 12 (only 98 years old, but close enough). Also a John Browing design. I'm sure there's more.

I have my great-grandfather's Winchester Model 12...looked up the serial number and turns out its manufacture date was 1928. Took it skeet shooting earlier this year and I must say, I did pretty well with it. That thing will tear up your shoulder though, that's for sure!

42 posted on 12/23/2010 6:06:18 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: marktwain

“What other 100-year old design is still in daily use? “

I’m going hunting in ten minutes, with my 98 Mauser.


43 posted on 12/23/2010 6:06:36 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: marktwain

What other 100-year old design is still in daily use

Well The Bible is still used daily and it is slightly older then 100 years.........
Owned a 1911 some years back and found it to be a dependable quality shooter.


44 posted on 12/23/2010 6:07:51 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: marktwain
Well....I do agree with his comments about Jeff Cooper. (I did 2 Gunsite sessions back in the '80s - I thought it a little 'cultish')
But other than that part, well, the guy is entitled to his opinion. Doesn't make it valid though.
45 posted on 12/23/2010 6:11:57 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: Leisler
not being an m16 fan, I can see not carrying all the weight of the m14... the m14 is definitely a powerhouse in comparison.

I see that a bunch of old m14s are being dusted off for the sandbox as they shoot through things....like car doors.

my only weapon carrying experience is hunting and the older I get, the lighter a firearm I require to make it up those damn hills. and like I say, I can see carrying a lighter weapon and being able to carry more ammo to boot...and I understand the M16s are more reliable than one they first came out

46 posted on 12/23/2010 6:14:26 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Squantos; archy

What say you?

I, for one, prefer the 1911 type over double action designs I have tried.


47 posted on 12/23/2010 6:16:56 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: OKSooner
During the Phillipine Insurrection, the then issued Colt 38 Long was deemed inefficient in stopping the fanatical Moros(Muslim).

By wrapping themselves tightly in bamboo cord(to staunch bloodflow) and taking depressive drugs to deaden the nerves, they would attack in droves, dying only when they were either shot so full of holes they bled out or hit with something effective, like a shotgun.

There were so many failures of the .38 Long as a defensive caliber, that the call went out for refurbished 1873 Colt SAA in 45 caliber to be issued. The Army put out criteria for the next generation sidearm to be of 'caliber no less than 45'

48 posted on 12/23/2010 6:17:03 AM PST by Wizdum
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To: marktwain

>>What other 100-year old design is still in daily use?

The Ma Deuce, another work of the mind of John Moses Browning. <*genuflects*> Well, 90 or so years, but close enough.

And I’m not even a 1911 fan.


49 posted on 12/23/2010 6:17:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: marktwain

It saved my ass several times one day, and I know it can still do that. Good ‘nuff for me.


50 posted on 12/23/2010 6:17:35 AM PST by Rannug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-qH02g4DLI)
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To: marktwain
To be fair, I have some of the same complaints with the Walther PPK. Which is also a very old design, one which has been eclipsed by more modern designs which can do everything it does better.

I have a 1911 and a Makarov (PPK copy) (among others)and they both work great. The Makarov, with it's fixed barrel, is extreamly accurate. On a par with my Ruger 22/45.

51 posted on 12/23/2010 6:18:44 AM PST by CPOSharky (They ain't illegals. They're just ungegistered democrats.)
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To: marktwain

I’ve never liked the 1911.

The 1911 sure as hell was a great handgun for decades, going back to when it was first produced, but there are far better designed automatic handguns out there right now.


52 posted on 12/23/2010 6:19:22 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Blueflag

Not a 1911 fan anymore, but I have to agree.

Just like the AR/<-16/M-4, the magazines cause 99% of the problems.


53 posted on 12/23/2010 6:21:46 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: marktwain

Big Jake’s son used one when the Duke and son went into Mexico to kill paladin so they could save his grandson, and the Duke could go back and jump on Maureen O’Hara.{That’s the whole movie in two lines}.


54 posted on 12/23/2010 6:25:06 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, in honor of Standing Wolf.)
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To: KoRn

I can only say this to anyone who owns or buys a 1911, the aficionados already know this so you guys can add your comments.

Get a catalog from www.brownells.com.

There is page after page after page of aftermarket custom parts for the 1911, many times more in either bling or performance than any other pistol made, really its an excellant platform to custom build.

Like buying a Harley, it runs but can run way better with a few tweeks and moolah.


55 posted on 12/23/2010 6:25:23 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
I am not surprised that the 1911 is out of place in today’s world, and you shouldn’t be surprised either. What other 100-year old design is still in daily use?

My DA revolver.

If one wanted to get technical, you can also count the thousands of Civil War era Colt and Remington black powder replica revolvers that are used in shooting matches on a regular basis by Cowboy Action shooyers. These are 150 year old designs.

56 posted on 12/23/2010 6:27:26 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: marktwain
What other 100-year old design is still in daily use?

Well...there's this one...

57 posted on 12/23/2010 6:27:36 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: edpc

Rock islands work just fine.


58 posted on 12/23/2010 6:28:14 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: edpc
My first 1911 was and is a “mil-spec” Norinco 1911A1. It is the one I have fired most over time and it alases works.

I was invited to shoot steel run-and-gun some time back and it did have some trouble after about 150 rounds. I blame dirty off-brand ammo because after I cleaned it I fire 50 rounds with no trouble, and that has never happened again. Even at that, I don't expect a 150 round gun fight anytime soon...{:0)

Newer Colt and Kimber specimens seem to be as good and better, but I don't have the same run time on those as the old reliable knock off.

59 posted on 12/23/2010 6:29:59 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

alases = always


60 posted on 12/23/2010 6:35:17 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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