Posted on 12/19/2010 6:20:36 AM PST by Kaslin
You blame the politicians.
I blame the influx of northeastern liberals and the socialist support from the Soviet communists and their lackeys.
I worked in San Francisco doing engineering work from 1995 to 2007. I knew very few native Californians. A third were immigrants from Asia or the middle east or hispanic immigrants. 2/3rds were people from New York, Boston, Michigan, D.C., etc. & etc. I knew very few people who were raised and schooled in California. They were mainly people from the east coast.
This in the 1990s.
It took decades of invasion from these east coast liberals to vote in decades of socialist politicians to get to this point.
I blame the influx of east coast liberals flooding California for it’s eventual destruction. This is now accelerating with the flood of hispanic illegals, but the die was cast long ago from the hordes of socialist east coast colonists squatting in California. And this flood continues to this day.
Click the link, bring up the map, and look where people from California are coming from. The northeast. Look where northeast liberals are going to. California.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/migration-moving-wealthy-interactive-counties-map.html
Click on Los Angeles. See that flood of black lines from the Northeast - that is northeast liberals flocking to LA.
Click on San Francisco - see that flood of black lines showing all the liberals flocking to SF.
Even cowtown Sacramento shows a distinctive black fan of liberals moving in from Boston, New York, New Jersey and Michigan.
East coast liberals destroyed California. Not the politicians. It took 60 years of east coast liberals voting for those socialist politicians to get California where it is today - bankrupt, immoral and falling into the abyss.
No, Californians of Mexican descent will not save California.
I would put more hope in Californians of Asian descent because they highly value education, which could save California.
Californians of Mexican descent have not learned to value education, and in fact many come here without any ability to even read to their children in Spanish let alone English, so the viscious cycle continues.
Add to this that they believe strongly in receiving entitlements.
No, Californians of Mexican descent will be part of the problem, not part of the solution. There is no salvation coming from there.
I see some twists and turns to the idea.
To start with, by all appearances, the gravy train is coming to an end in California. It is one of those, “And then what happens?” moments.
I expect to see some combination of emigration, a massive down scaling of government, and a “fuzzy mix” of outcomes.
But comparatively, I also note that one of the biggest obstacles to Mexican-American integration is ghettoization. But this is typical for any immigrant group that remains clustered. When they are diffused in the general population, they integrate much more rapidly.
There is also the Mexican variation of the “Three Generation Integration” scheme, that has long been the case in the US. The first generation of immigrants are still “old world”. The second generation are problematic, forming gangs and mafias, because they are neither here nor there, culturally. And the third generation is fully integrated.
The Mexican variation of this is because instead of a brief, big wave of immigrants, there has been a steady stream from Mexico for decades. So all three generations of integration exist, often in the same home.
This is made even stranger because of the legal and illegal status, which can cross the lines even in the same family, and bears no relation to time in country, age or integration.
So you end up with odd situations, like old people who are still entirely Mexican, do not speak English, etc., yet are citizens; yet some of their adult children are legal, yet their spouses are illegal; and their grandchildren may be fully integrated, speak English fluently and be American educated, with no knowledge of Mexico, and yet be illegal, because they came here as infants.
A bizarre mess.
But the bottom line for California is based on several variables.
First and foremost of these is to break up the Mexican ghettos, which means to end the illegal problem, one way or another, so that those Mexican-Americans who remain can all be employed.
But any way to get the Mexican-Americans out and about with non-Mexican Americans would help.
Statistically, it should be noted that, headlines to the contrary, Mexican-Americans are about par for the number of their group who commit crimes. The greatest majority are peaceful, hard working and will integrate over time, if encouraged to do so. They are also not politically monolithic, which works to their advantage.
I hope you are right. I used to think immigrants would save us because they so accutely could see there newfound freedoms. After 12 years in San Francisco working elbow to elbow with immigrants, I found them to be massive Democrat supporters who think they can mix the best of capitalism with the best of socialism. This does not bode well.
I can well imagine that in SF. However, in Phoenix there are few real pockets of Mexican-Americans and illegals. They are dispersed throughout the city to a great extent. And I have met some families that have been here a while that could best be described as “right wing”, even “Jesse Helms right wing”.
I remember one white professor at ASU, who was extremely right wing, and had close to a fan club of Mexican-Americans. One of them described him as close to being a (Porfirio) “Diazista.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porfirio_Diaz
It’s sort of hard to describe, in American terms, how very right wing that is. N.B.: the professor later got caught up in the Iran-Contra scandal. He had a serious down on communists.
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