Chicago Thugs vs. The Founders

Obama's Garden ^ | December 17, 2010 | Miss Tickly

[Hotlanta Mike]

...Not only did Factcheck.org’s false claim convince the media that Obama’s alleged COLB is legal and legitimate, their claims and photos convinced Congress, too. According to Arlen Specter, Congress concluded that Obama is a natural born citizen, in part, because of this lie. Congress and Factcheck.org knew that a legitimate COLB issued from Hawaii should have a ‘raised seal.’ And they both got it wrong. Why?"

[Hotlanta Mike]

"Despite what anyone else tells you – Factcheck.org, Arlen Specter, and the rules, regulations & laws in Hawaii have stated and show that a legal, authorized and official seal applied to a certified copy of a vital record issued from the Hawaii Department of Health should be raised. And the COLB belonging to Obama bears an incised seal."

[stylin19a]

Gibbs admitted he was the one who gave the COLB to Factcheck. perhaps a sleuth should be looking at Gibbs.

[abigail2]

bump

[True Republican Patriot]

So is an “Incised Seal” a. Raised Seal, or Not? Just asking for a little clarification. thanks!

[True Republican Patriot]

A COLB was suppose to be issued to only those NOT BORN in a Hawaiian Hospital, but rather at home or other location in Hawaii.
Zero claims to have been born at a specific Hospital in Hawaii!
So why doesn’t Zero have a normal Hospital Issued Birth Certificate?
Why has the entire Life History of Zero been “DISAPPEARED”?
Every gory detail of every other President or Candidate has always been examined by an Electron Microscope by the Media in the past!

[BuckeyeTexan]

MissTickly was banned from FR. Why do you keep pimping her blog?

[wintertime]

Thank you for this important information.

[1234]

MissTickly was banned from FR...

PLS., WHY?

[Tex-Con-Man]

Technically not banned. Miss Tickly is a self admitted lefty who requested her account closed after making some unsubstantiated “fraud” claims against a fellow freeper. The thread turned ugly, and she decided to leave.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Because she’s an admitted liberal atheist whose true colors were shown when she accused two long-time freepers of lying and fabricating documentary evidence that called into question MissTickly’s theories. She was vicious. Her behavior was unconscionable. She isn’t freeper material.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Yes, technically, she didn’t get the ZOT. However, she’ll stay banned.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Yes, technically, she didn’t get the ZOT. However, she’ll stay banned.

[Hotlanta Mike]

MissTickly was banned from FR. Why do you keep pimping her blog?

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Really, banned for what reason? Is what she has posted not informative or constructive for the sake of discussion?

Are you a Buckeye grad or just from Ohio? I’m an OSU grad, class of ‘82.

[bushpilot1]

BuckeyeTexan is a known Obot, he will attempt to tarnish and discredit anyone who presents evidence Obama was not born in Hawaii or is not a natural born citizen.

It is what they do on free republic.

[jamese777]

BuckeyeTexan is a known Obot, he will attempt to tarnish and discredit anyone who presents evidence Obama was not born in Hawaii or is not a natural born citizen.

It is what they do on free republic.

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Now that Obama’s good left wing Democrat buddy Neil Abercrombie is the new Governor Of Hawai’i, you can bet your bottom dollar that there is proof that Obama was born in Hawai’i on a long form birth certificate at the Department of Health.

[Tex-Con-Man]

BuckeyeTexan is a known Obot, he will attempt to tarnish and discredit anyone who presents evidence Obama was not born in Hawaii or is not a natural born citizen.

And what exactly did BuckeyeTexan say that was factually incorrect?

[bluecat6]

http://24ahead.com/s/obama-citizenship

“no matter what you hear, where Obama was born has not been verified. Those who say otherwise are lying to you. There are several writers and others who’ve lied about this issue listed below, and a partial list of politicians who’ve lied or who are at least spreading disinformation about this issue is here.”

[BuckeyeTexan]

Horsesh*t.

The only aspects of the birther narrative that I make a concerted effort to discredit are the demonstrably false Internet rumors that birthers ignorantly continue to perpetuate.

Here are a couple of examples:

1) There was no travel ban on Americans traveling to Pakistan in 1981 - neither by the U.S. State Dept. nor by the Pakistani government.

2) Obama’s first Executive Order did not seal all of his personal records.

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A COLB was suppose to be issued to only those NOT BORN in a Hawaiian Hospital, but rather at home or other location in Hawaii.

Do you mean a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth"? That was the program (in existence from 1911 to 1972) for those who weren't born in hospitals, but elsewhere in Hawaii.

Hawaii uses "Birth Certificate" and "Certificate of Live Birth" interchangeably. Do you mean "Certification of Life Birth"? That's a computer generated copy. If you had a Hawaiian Birth Certificate and ask for proof of birth, that's what they issue you.

Anyway, whether COLB means "Certificate of Live Birth" or "Certification of Live Birth" it's different from the "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth," which was what you got if you weren't born in a hospital.

Zero claims to have been born at a specific Hospital in Hawaii!

So why doesn’t Zero have a normal Hospital Issued Birth Certificate?

If he was born at a specific hospital in Hawaii presumably he does have one. He just hasn't shown it to the public.

If he's gotten away with not showing it so far, what's going to make him do so now?

[bushpilot1]

Does this include Vattel’s Law of Nations? What do Obots call him..”an obscure Swiss author”.

The Obots state Vattel was not listed in the Congressional records during the drafting of the Constitution.

The Obots state the Founders never read the Law of Nations nor did it play a role in the revolution or the founding of the country.